July 4, 2009 - 10:29am
Thought some of you would find this article interesting...It's from the Drugs.com website
http://www.drugs.com/news/if-2-painkillers-banned-next-18627.html
Ray
July 4, 2009 - 11:54am
#2
Good point. Last time I was
Good point. Last time I was Rx'd vicodin it was cheaper to buy it without insurance than it was to pay my insurance copay. They've got to put an end to such lucidicrous happenings...(sarcasm)
July 5, 2009 - 7:44am
#3
That really is the short end of the stick
IMO. Not really for percocet, because there is already a number of preparations on the market that are just oxycodone. As far as hydrocodone goes, it is not marketed by itself. I think what will probably happen with that is it will be raised to C-II and marketed with no APAP, that would also open the option to market a 15mg tablet of hydrocodone, which I think would help alot with dosing flexability.
Ray
July 6, 2009 - 12:21am
#4
Don't forget about Vicoprofin
Don't forget about Vicoprofin (spelling?) which has ibuprofen in it instead of APAP. Not like they will take that off the market.
July 6, 2009 - 2:07am
#5
Yeah... why dont they make
Yeah... why dont they make 15mg hydrocodone? They make 15mg oxycodone right, or even a 30mg hydrocodone.
July 6, 2009 - 7:59am
#6
The way it stands now
Any tablet containing over 10mg hydrocodone, even if it is in a combo product, would be considered C-II. Hydrocodone marketed by itself would be considered C-II, whether or not it was 10 or 15 mg, still C-II.
Ray
July 6, 2009 - 10:24am
#7
Here we go again
I have been taking oxycodone for over ten years and never had an iota of APAP. I always ask, What's the need for the Tylenol? Who needs it? All it does is rot your liver. The drug companies will finally come up with a hydro that is apapless. I've heard things but haven't seen any results yet. There are many pharmacies that compound the hydro with lets say only 80-100 mgs of apap but it's still too much for the FDA. What I can't believe is that they're just now seeing what Tylenol does to the liver and are trying to do something about it. I remember back 25-30 years ago, I was reading about a man that had overdosed on Tylenol, just plain old Tylenol. Then I read about how toxic it was and that you shouldn't take in any more than something like 4000 mgs a day. Heck if your taking Maxidone which is hydro 10 mg and apap 750 mg, you can't take but 5 a day, any more than that is toxic according to the FDA. I say do away with the Vicodin, Percocet and all of the others that have APAP in them and just market the Narcotic by itself. Just my opinion.
July 6, 2009 - 10:37am
#8
Ya But
The panel that recommends that oxycodone and Hydrocodone be baned is OK with all other meds that contain Tylenol so hmm whats really being baned most over the counter worthless BUT very bad for you meds are being left out Tylenol pm will still be at costco in the jumbo 1000 count bottle
July 6, 2009 - 10:45am
#9
Right
GO FIGURE!!! That only makes sense. This is America, after all.
Seriously, that's crazy. They're just using this as an excuse to get rid of the narcotic painkillers that contain Tylenol? Ridiculous!
July 6, 2009 - 1:20pm
#10
What I see happening is an
What I see happening is an additional shortages for the 'standard' variety hydrocodone preps like 5/500, 7.5/750, 10/660 and the like...and for those of us taking the 10/325, those too will become harder to find. As often is the case, this will be more about the buzz and less about factual information.
July 6, 2009 - 1:25pm
#11
Tylenol
is fine. I just want to be able to take it separately, that's all. It obviously works or it wouldn't be as popular as it is espcially being non-narcotic.
Ray
July 6, 2009 - 2:52pm
#12
copy paste
FDA convenes medical community experts to vote on ways to make acetaminophen safer for consumers.
FDA advisors on Tuesday voted overwhelmingly in favor of a black-box warning and new restrictions on use of acetaminophen, both in prescription and nonprescription products containing the analgesic/antipyretic. UPDATE: As of July 3, APhA has issued a member brief on acetaminophen and recent FDA activity.
On the prescription side, advisors voted 20–17 in favor of a ban on opioid–acetaminophen combinations such as Percocet and Vicodin and favored a black-box warning (36–1) for any products remaining on the market. The members of Drug Safety and Risk Management, Nonprescription Drugs, and Anesthetic and Life Support Drugs Advisory Committees also advocated reducing the maximum OTC strength of single-ingredient acetaminophen products to 650 mg, making products with higher amount available only by prescription.
Panelists stopped short of removing multi-ingredient acetaminophen products from the OTC market, voting 24–13 against a proposal that would have affected most cough-and-cold products and headache remedies such as Excedrin. Some observers found the recommendations to pull Rx combination products from the market while leaving OTC ones" inconsistent"
Ray, I didn't have time to read the article, but I've heard all about this. In fact, this past Thursday I was told by two seperate doctors how this was something that was going to happen "quite soon." I don't think it will happen soon, but these medications will be SEVERELY restricted.
Achieving pain relief of intractable, non-cancer pain will be next to impossible in this country.
Another thing- there is much more money to be made with new drugs...Vicodin and Percocet have been helping people for too long. Time for some R&D dollars to make pharm. companies some more bread at the expense of patients everywhere.