The last time I got my percocets refilled and asked for the brand name noone gave me a dirty look or started gossiping about me. Actually the pharmacist came to the window and asked me if I had taken this medice before and I was like yea. Then he said, "so you like the brand name huh" I said ya it seems to work better for me and last longer. He said ok what ever works best for you with a smile and I think he agreed with me about the quality of the endo brand of percocet. I love my pharmacy which is wallgreens but I'm trying to find a pharmacy that has the generic brand of qualitest for their percocets. Does anyone know of any place that does carry these. I live in Washington state.
just to let you know endo pharmaceuticals makes their own generics as well and i would assume it is the same exact pill just a different imprint. I know they have a 10/325 one says percocet and 10/325 on the back the other is e712 with 10/325 on the back...same size color and shape and made from the same company so i would assume it is the same thing just a different imprint. They also have the same thing with teh 5mg...one is blue and says percocet 5 and their generic is endo 602 and it should be the same exact thing. Also i have never seen the qualitest perc generic and i am an addict so i have seen almost all opiate pain killers so this generic must be rather rare. They only make a generic 5mg so that is prolly why not many places carry it when they can get a different brand generic that has all the strengths.
I have to agree the endo generic is the exact same pill except for the imprint, same company, size, color, everything. But if you like the brand go for it, I always do. Qualitest/vintage pharms is quite rare in percocet generics, yet so many vicodin(V for vicodin right). Kinda weird.
Check with a licensed MD before you take any suggestions!
Thanks for the info. So your saying that the endo generic brand is the same as the brand name. I might have to try it. So I would have to call around and see if the pharmacies carry the endo generic brand. Is that what they are called. I have a question, do pharmacys carry different generic brands for the same medication. What I mean is say I want to get my perc 5s refilled. Would a wallgreens or a rite aid carry say mallincroft and watson or just one or the other.
most pharmacies carry whatever generic is the most economical for them, i.e. make the most money from, i.e. mallinckrodt. Yes they are the same pill by the same manufacturer.
Check with a licensed MD before you take any suggestions!
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Hey Spence. I live in washington state aswell, Puget sound. anyway I would try calling a Fred Meyer store is your have one new year. I know a few people who get their scripts filled there and almost all the time it turns out to be that certain brand. :)
Thanks for the response kennyrh. We do have a Fred Meyer in my area (Tri-Cities). So you think they carry the qualitest brand there?
It's worth a try to call them if they work better for you :)
The People I know get a range of medications and the majority turn out to be Qualitest. I can't guarantee they have Qualitest Percs where you are but my auntie has got that filled here in the Puget sound. I know how hard the search for the right brand could be because im doing the same with my roxicodone :P. Good LuckSpence, The rite aid I go to only carrys Mallinkrodt...no other generic choice (unfortunately). I don't know if any major chain pharmacys carry Qualitest anymore? I wonder if CVS does? Not sure if you have those up there? Maybe emailing Qualitest they could tell you what pharmacys handle their brand in your area? Just a thought. Would be nice to know if there were any major chains that did carry them these days..or any place for that matter...seems harder and harder to find them...seems like too many have switched to Mallinkrodt because they are cheaper for them, they get a better deal..even some that carried Watson's before have switched over to Mallinkrodt. Watson would be my second choice I think..longer pain relief than Mallinkrodt. If you can find a pharmacy up there that does carry Qualitest tho its worth it IMO. I noticed quite a difference when I tried them. Lately I am thinking about switching pharmacys myself for that very reason. I get great service where I go, very efficient etc. just wish they carried Qualitest or at least Watson. Let us know how it goes. Good Luck!
Cruise, when I recently emailed Qualitest inquiring about who carries there generic hyrdo/apap 10/500 (pink V3600) they suggested I try CVS. They also said that if my normal mom & pop pharmacist called them they could drop ship them to a wholesaler of his choice, but they couldnt ship them directly to the pharmacy. You could also try a Good Neighbor Pharmacy, they seem to carry a lot of Qualitest generics. You said you use Walgreens, right? The only hydro/apap combo that most Walgreens stock that are Mallinckrodt are the 10/660, this isnt just in my state a lot of posters say they get all the other strengths of Watson at Walgreens. I was talking to one of there pharmacists and he said "when watson started shipping the Andrx 10/660 Walgreens got a lot of complaints so they switched to Malli". So you could also ask your doctor for a different strength like Lortab 10 or Lorcet 10/650, so you can get Watson and not switch pharms.
Spence, the "generic" Percocet made by endo is called Endocet (could print this out take it to the pharmacy and ask them to order these for you). Or just call around ask if they have Endocet brand 5/325. A lot of pharmacies will probably refuse to give you that much info about a CII over the phone though.
to the person who said a pharmacy that carries qualitest generics will carry the qualitest percocet that isnt always true. The cvs in my area carries a lot of qualitest but has the mallinkrodt percocet and the walgreens in my area has the watson brand. And as said above the endo generic is known as Endocet.
Also to Solo..... I find that strange because the walgreens in my area carries all mallinkrodt for their hydrocodone except for the norco 7.5 and 10 which are watson except they had the mallinkrodt 7.5 once....all other times it was watson(my mom had a script before she had the percocet 5mg). All vicodin and lortab generics i have seen from there were mallinknrodt.
Alright Ive give it a shot. The wallgreens up here carry watson for percocet. I have seen qualitest brand for darvocet at the wallgreens but thats it. I called around last time and talked to rite aid, safeway's pharmacy and they both carried mallickrodt. They didnt seem to sketchy about talking about their brand over the phone. What about wallmart? We dont have CVS up here but could anyone remember where they last got percocet filled that was qualitest. By the way thats a good idea to email qualitest ill do that.
solo5010, thanks for that info. I get the 10/660 Mallinkrodt hydrocodone from rite aid. I just refilled there, but I'll check with CVS and Good Neighbor, like you mentioned, and see if they carry Qualitest before my refill next month. I'll also keep the Lorcet 10/650 and Lortab 10 in mind as a back up if the 10/660 doesn't pan out..thats a good solution too..I've had both the Watson 503 and the Watson 540 before and they were both very good..I preferred those over these Mallinkrodt 10/660's . Thanks again!
I found qualitest brand percocet at a local city pharmacy. I'm about to go get my prescription refilled in about an hour. How would you compare the qualitest brand to the others?
IMHO the Qualitest 5/325 are about this much better than the Mallinckrodt 5/325 ::Hold arms up:: {_________________________}
Whereas the Qualitest 5/325 are only about this much better than the Watson 5/325 ::holds arms up:: {_____________}
Spence, when you go to the pharmacy to get your script look and see if there is a round white sticker on the door that says its a Good Neighbor Pharmacy. There are a lot of mom and pop style and hospital pharmacies in my area that are Good Neighbor Pharmacies but dont use that as there name. I guess they are a network of independant pharmacies.
Well it was in an office building where there were many other doctors in it. It was basically a complex where there were alot of doctors and a pharmacy in the bottom. It wasn't really busy at all and got good service. I took two when I first got them and they work good but I think they are a tie with watson. Wastson in my opinion was a little better than the name brand percocets. I havent had the qualitests though on an empty stomach which makes a difference.
I also go to one of the Walgreen pharmacy's. What I think is odd is other people in these rooms get certain generic med's when I get complete other generic's (mostly narcotics) The generics Oxy IR med from other Walgreen's around the country is the generic I have been searching for. Strange.
I hope that you find the pain relief lasts longer with Qualitest. Thats my experience with that generic for hydrocodone...the pain relief extends alot more than the Mallinkrodt, in my case. For instance..I took my usual prescribed 10/660 Mallinkrodt dose this morning at 6 a.m...and by 8 a.m. the pain relief had worn off almost completely and it seemed like I hadn't taken anything....if I had taken a Qualitest 10/660 or a Watson 503 10/650, I know that it would have lasted at least twice that long or longer. I don't know what the reason is, but to me, Mallinkrodt just isn't as good. They just don't last very long at all, and seem weak when they are at full strength...its consistantly disappointing. Let us know what you think about the Qualitest as you go along etc. I found they do work best on an empty stomach for pain relief as well.
This is just my own observation and opinion-I have Qualitest brand & I have felt for a long time they are a much better product than other brands I have had.ie.Mallinrott. I will never use a Wallgreens Pharmacy-I have many legitamate reasons why. The Safeway Pharmacies I think give outstanding service, and offer other generics, they will even order a brand they have access to. The service is excellent-even when I lived in Illinois a year ago (Safeway is Dominicks in Ill )-I live in Arizona I will never change pharmacies. They did fill my script with Mallinrott (1x)-how ever the 20% of ingrediants in that brand trashes my stomach and in all honesty they do not last for any length of time in my system. Qualitest has very good longevity and consistancy this is very important to me -Safeway had no problem making sure I receive the Qualitest brand-they cost more as a generic vs for Mallinrott is all about profit-I pay the same with my copay for either brand.
I have also found safeway to be a great pharmacy. same with albertsons/sav-on. I have been taking rx drugs (almost all narcs) for several years and have yet to see a qualitest percocet. The only generic percocet brands I've seen are Watson, MAllinckrodt, and Endocet. Also the oxy IR by ethex 5,10,15,20,30mg are garbage. They dont work very long at all and it feels like a 30mg is 15mg compared to amide or mallinckrodt (whose oxy IR is of ok quality although I prefer amide and i'd like to try qualitest.
It is definately not hard to find qualitest percocet. My second call out of the yellow pages was a hit and they filled them for me. Just get you phone book out and call around. You will definately find a place that stocks them.
In the pharmacy profession there is a stigma associated with asking for brand name narcotics. As pharmacists we all know that most generic drugs are labeled AA by the FDA and are exactly equivalent in bioavaliable levels of the active ingredient that there should be no differing physiological response to the drug. So our thinking goes to the other end of the spectrum, and starts thinking that you want something that is recognizable to people that may be potential buyers. Percocet says that on the pill so there is no doubt that is what it is. It throws up a flag that you may be diverting this very strong Schedule II medication. If you arent that is great, and sorry for the stigma, but unfortunately it is part of the profession. We are responsible for preventing diversion of these drugs. It is a fine line to walk, because there are people that do not sell these drugs and take them legitimately, but they never ask for brand name, and they trust me when I explain the bioavaliability thing with them, I am just jaded when someone tells me that scientific empirical evidence is wrong, and they have NO formal education to support such claims. It is nothing personal, it is part of the job.
There are a lot of legitimate reasons to ask for name brand or a specific brand other than diversion. A lot of generic companies use Lactose as a cheap filler, and a lot people are lactose intolerant. Also there are a lot of people that associate brand names with quality and the mind is a powerful thing and can influence your feelings about how medications feel. And finally, since you are in the profession you might want to actually read some of the generic Prescribing Infomation leaflets. Just because a generic drug is rate AA or Bioequivalent doesnt mean they are exactly the same as the name brand and Im not talking just about the fillers. Im talking about the FDA's allowable variance in bioavailability, the small differences in AUC, Cmax and Tmax levels IMO have a big effect. Most of the complaints about 'bad' generic pain meds are how long they take to 'kick in' and the length of time the 'pain relief' lasts which directly corrolates with the small variance that is allowed by the FDA in Cmax and Tmax levels during the drugs application process which if approved is the guidelines that will be followed for production.
It is also my understanding that most pharmacists prefer to stock generic alternatives because there profit margin is a lot higher with generics. And since most people get generics once they are availalbe they dont like to order too much of the name brand because they tend to sit on the shelf and expire which a lot of times leads to special ordering.
Spence, how do you feel about the Qualitest brand?
You know what really jades me, pharmacists that create stereotypes. My pharmacist spoke with me when I asked for name brand percocet. He said, " so you like name brand" and I said yes it works good for me. He said thats good that you found something that works. No judgement. Solo said it perfectly. Anyways why would someone want to purchase brand name medicine which costs about 10 times more if they were going to sell it. I am looking for the best brand that works best for me and I have found it. Qualitest is exactly what the brand name says it is "quality". I really like how long they last compared to watson and even brand name. Why in the world do you care if someone prefers name brand over generic. I am not a pharmacist but I am studying mechanical engineering so I know how numbers work. If your pharmacy makes more money on generics then I'm sure you would want to fill prescriptions with generic but if that generic doesnt work for someone than they are not going to want it. It might be mental but on the other hand the different fillers have an effect on how long the drug last or how quick it starts to act in my opionion.
Someone else may have already said this, but your pharmacist may be able to order that particular brand for you. It usually only takes a few days to get it "special order."
That is good to know for future reference. I found a pharmacy about ten minutes from my house who fills qualitest. I would like the wallgreens which is about 1 minute from my house to carry them. So your saying that when I get a prescription go to wallgreens and ask them to order the qualitest brand. Do you think they will do this and is this an ordinary request or will they think it is strange?
When my refill comes up next month I am going to talk to my pharmacist and ask them if they can special order Qualitest for me for my following order.I would really like to keep the same pharmacy, if possible, because they are so close by and also they are very efficient and have never look down their nose or acted strange..plus they know me now which also helps of course. Spence, I would think it should be a normal request to go to any pharmacy with a prescription and ask for a specific brand, which is what I should have done when I switched to this pharmacy awhile back. I think we should have the option of what brand or generic brand we want, and not have to settle for a brand that is less effective because thats the 'only' brand they offer. They can tell me there is no difference all they want, but I know that there is since I have tried 3 different generics and Mallinkrodt is at the bottom of my list.
Most likely Walgreens will not order the Qualitest for you. Walgreens and most other big name pharmacies have the size and power to negotiate reduced cost contracts with wholesalers like McKesson or AmerisourceBergen, which will usually mean that they can only buy from the particular wholesaler for which they have a contract with. So if the wholesaler for that division of Walgreens doesnt stock Qualitest your S.O.L. The smaller 'mom & pop' pharmacies usually dont have a large enough business to get these types of contracts so they usually have the freedom to order from whatever wholesaler they want. Ive actually had a Walgreens pharmacist say "I cant only sell ya what they send me".
solo5010..I see what you mean...my pharmacy is a rite aid...so they probably would operate the same way you mentioned, since they are another huge outfit..this rite aid carries Mallinkrodt for hydrocodone for as long as I have been with them, which is a couple years now. Not sure if all rite aids carry just Mallinkrodt? Finding a good mom & pop pharmacy that either carrys Qualitest, or Watson...or will order one of them, will probably be what I end up doing. I'll still ask rite aid and see what they say tho, and that way too, I can express my disappointment with the Mallinkrodt product and they will know why I would be switching pharmacys.
I just wanted to agree with solo and add a little thing about the pharmacies and the wholesalers....as Solo said the more major pharmacies have contracts with the wholesalers but i just wanted to point out that it is more of a regional thing. I know of a certain major pharmacy in like a 10-20 mile radius that carries only mallinkrodt brand of hydrocodone but then i know a friend down in florida who goes to the same chain and all of them near him have the watson. So although the major chains have the contracts with certain wholesalers it is regional and changes depending where you are.
I certainly agree with what you are posting here, but do you really think the common person without someone like you, or others here, would actually know these differences without extensive research, or career field schooling in pharmacy. Unless you are having allergic reactions to the ingredients used, you really are not going to see a next to nothing difference between the drugs. You are very right about the fact that these pharmacies use what benefits them the most. Sure! There has to be a profit, or what would be the purpose? Bran Vs Generic. It's a mental thing. Generics were, and are a great, safe cost saving alternative.
More good info Frkonaleash1010...I see it can vary, I would have guessed they all would get the same brand everywhere, but I see now thats not always the case depending on location. Glad you guys mentioned this info since it all helps alot.




Probably gotta call the pharmacy's I would think. I never had a problem when I would talk to the Pharm tech. I have wanted to get on the Ethex Oxy IR's but my town of at least 100,000 have only 2 pharmacy's that carry the 15mg'. and the only brand they carry is Amide for the generic's. Maybe you might have to go to another town