October 23, 2009 - 10:09am
Just took my First MS Contin 15 mg. What Should I expect in the next 12 hours? I am kind of scared. It has been 50 minutes since I have taken it and have felt a little tired and my breathing is a little less than usual. That is all I feel so far.
October 23, 2009 - 10:27am
#2
Norco Before
I was on Norco 10/325mg before 4 x daily for almost 2 years.
It has been 1 hour and 7 minutes since my dose and so far, I am not as tired, I find taking a few deep breathes now and then, head is a little woozy.
October 23, 2009 - 10:29am
#3
Will this give me the kind of
Will this give me the kind of engery that Norco gave me?
October 23, 2009 - 10:50am
#4
I agree with Saturated.
I agree with Saturated. "It's all in your head" Just relax. If you have taken Hydrocodone 10's for some time, you should tollerate the 15mg just fine. It should give you a bit of energy like hydocodone will.
Be carefull, they may cause constipation. A stool softener will do the trick. Be very carefull and don't take them to get energy. They can be very addictive. I have been on and off Oxycontin and Hydrocodone for about 3 years now. I am definatley "addicted" to them, but I do not abuse them like I use to. It took alot of will power and withdrawls to finally get my head straight and take them only as perscribed.
October 23, 2009 - 11:05am
#5
I don't take them to get
I don't take them to get energy, but I did like the energy that Norco gave me. I think with the energy I had gotten from Norco, it helped me with my everyday life. But my body became somewhat immune to Norco in a short period of time. I have Ankylosing Spondylitis with limited chest expansion. This is why I was worried about the breathing. It has been 1 hour and 45 minutes and 15 minutes ago it really kicked it but not too hard. I feel like I am very calm and a little tired, but i am going to try to get up and move around a bit to see what it does to me, (dizziness, tiredness, etc.)
I am going to keep replying so that this may help other people in the future. I will keep this thread updated.
A great stool softener is Miralax! You add a small amount to any drink and you cannot taste it. It always made me go the next morning.
Phil 
October 23, 2009 - 11:45am
#6
I hope this is OK, just edit
I hope this is OK, just edit me if it's not. I have AS's nasty sister PSa and a site that is great also and full of folks just like us is kickas.org. The limited chest expansion doesn't play a part in respitory depression from meds, it's that caged in feeling we get when we can't get a deep breath along with your fear of it causing problems(been there done that) I'm with everyone else, relax and allow it to work. I find the more I stress and worry about med changes, the less effect I get from the med, almost like I'm fighting it subconcionsously(sp) so it can't fully help. I hope that wasn't too confusing.
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October 23, 2009 - 12:13pm
#7
Thank you! I have been to
Thank you! I have been to Kickas.org! I have it bookmarked and I will be visiting there more often! Yes, I have had that same symptom when you try to take deep breaths and you can't. But while in ER, they look at you like you are having anxiety because the oxygen level is 100%. I thought it was from medication like norco or the xanax i was taking.
I remember taking IBProfen and it helped with the breathing deep.
It has been almost 3 hours now and the MS Contin and so far so good. It doesn't give you that quick high like norco, but it makes you a little sleepy and you lose track of thought a little but not much.
I'll kepp you updated.
If I can make it through this, then anybody can. So if you are taking MS Contin 15mg and it is your first time, don't worry and do relax, because it does help! I haven't been so tired that I fell asleep yet.
Phil
October 23, 2009 - 12:50pm
#8
Im glad to hear you are doing
Im glad to hear you are doing good.
A word of caution though, avoid phrases like "It doesn't give you that quick high like norco," It usally doesn't go over too well here at Pharmer.
October 23, 2009 - 1:02pm
#9
dr change me awhile back to
dr change me awhile back to 15mg morphine.didn't do anything for me.then change it to 30mg er and 15mg ir,very little help. so went back to hydro 20 mg evey 6 hrs.this works better for me.i know morphine helps alot of people but really did nothing for me.
October 23, 2009 - 1:07pm
#10
Mulkins98,I know what you
Mulkins98,
I know what you meen by saying they give you energy that helps you in day to day life. I explained that to my Dr. and he said that is normal and actually a good thing. He wants me to be as active as possible
As with any narcotic pain reliever, I believe that your body will take a day or 3 to get accustomed to the MS contin. I think the drowsy feeling will go away and you shouldn't have any ill side effects from them.
are you taking 15mgs every 12 hours or just as needed? Just curious
October 23, 2009 - 2:03pm
#11
Yeah, I said that the Norco
Yeah, I said that the Norco gives you a quick high because it does! I don't know how to explain that any different. Maybe works faster or something. I am not a junkie, because if I was, i would have bought vicodin off the streets. I was scared to death to take the Norco when I first started taking it too.
I have anxiety.
Anyway, it has been about 5 hours since I have taken the MS Contin.
1st Hour - I didn't really feel anything.
1.5 hours - I started feeling woozy and tired
From 1.5 Hours to the 4th Hour - I felt tired and woozy
On the fourth hour - I told myself I needed to get up and move around. I took a shower and I feel 100% better. There is no pain and I don't feel high like the norco did. I feel absolutely Normal.
It is now the 5th hour. And I am actually functioning normally.
For those who just started, just make sure you take the medicine every 12 hours and not sooner or later.
MS Contin is still a potent drug so be very cautious when taking.
I will still keep this thread updated today!
Thanks,
Phil
October 23, 2009 - 2:06pm
#12
I also want to point out that
I also want to point out that my pain doctor took me off norco because I just had surgery for kidney stones and found myself taking more and more. You DON'T want to do that.
It is bad for your liver and your kidneys!
So for all you drug seekers, Vicodin is the worse drug to ever have to take. I had unbearable withdrawals from it and I hate it now!
Awful!
October 23, 2009 - 3:42pm
#13
pain free
most likely if u get nausea from it ask your doc for phenegran its good for motion sickness and nausea. when i was rxd opana er 40mg he gave that to me in case i got sick. r u rxd twice a day or 3 times a day. i think the drs are realizing all these time released meds are mostly only good for 8 hr. ive always been rxd either 3 100mg ms contins currently on, or my old devil 3 80mg oxycontin. at the end of the day i would rather be taking the ms contin to stay off the roller coaster. i hate roller coasters they make me so sick, they look like fun and they are but at the end i will be sick. hope ur ms contin is working well.
October 23, 2009 - 4:47pm
#14
tired an woozy
kinda like a slight withdrawal from hydrocodone, when all the medication worn off, I would start to yawn incontrolable, an start getting slight anxiety.
it take a day or so to adjust, tired to stay active if possible
Woodstock
October 23, 2009 - 7:00pm
#15
Glad you made it through!
Glad you made it through!
40mg of Hydrocodone per day is actually higher intake of narcotic medicine that 15mg MS Contin b.i.d. Orally, the equianalgesic dose of MS Contin 90-120mg q12 hrs. = 30mg Hydrocodone q.3-4 hrs.
Just another bit of reassurance. Also, contrary to popular opinion, oral opiods DO NOT produce significant respiratory depression, except in MEGA doses. You cannot even compare the effects on respiration from IV morphine to oral morphine.
One more thing, marked drowsiness and lethargy usually precedes any clinically significant respiratory depression.
It's good to be aware of possible side effects of a new medication; look for them, just don't perseverate on them, especially if you're prone to anxiety.
P.S. Don't breathe too deep; you'll hyperventilate, and really freak out....Don't even focus on your breathing. Take care of yourself.
October 23, 2009 - 7:41pm
#16
Well, It has been a great day
Well, It has been a great day altogether. from the 5th hour, I had gotten spells of tiredness and slight dizziness at times, but when I was feeling good, I felt great! I have had no more withdrawal symptoms of Norco! I am getting ready to take my second 12 hour dose of MS Contin 15 mg at 9p.m.
If all goes well, I will get a good nights sleep and plenty of rest for tomorrow!
I will let you know how it goes!
No more worries here!
Thanks everyone for your feedback!
Phil
October 24, 2009 - 6:11pm
#17
Second Day taking MS Contin vs. Norco
Hello Again,
It is now the second day and well past the afternoon and the third dose of MS Contin since yesterday morning! Today has been a life changing day! I did not let myself sit around. After my morning dose of MS Contin 15 mg, I had about 8 oz. of coffee and then pushed some water most of the day. I have been cleaning house all day. It is now 6p.m. and you would think that after all that work, I would be wore out. But not at all! I still have enough energy to enjoy a nice evening at rest without getting tired and falling asleep.
MS Contin works better for pain than any Vicodin or Norco ever has! I remember getting out of bed to use the bathroom last night and I was pain free!
If you are starting this medication, don't be afraid! It is considered a low dose. I was worried about the effects of respitory depression. It did have a small effect but no more than what the Norco 10/325 administered.
If you are going to take this medicine after your doctor has prescribed it, you should definately let your doctor know what other Narcotics and Medication you are taking. This is still a strong medicine, but if you are in pain, MS Contin is great! I am going to try to stay on this dose for a long time.
I remember taking Vioxx when it was on the Market for my Ankylosing Spondylitis (Arthritis). Vioxx worked great for me. I was taking 12.5 mg of Vioxx every two days and had no Inflammation. I felt great. However, they removed it from the market because it was causing Heart Attacks and Strokes. MS Contin gave me that same pain relief Vioxx gave!
Wish everyone luck in the future!
Best Regards,
Phil
October 24, 2009 - 7:18pm
#18
I take morphine sulfate 60mg Bid
but I also take 800mgs of ibuprohen, the ibuprohen does more for the arthiritis than the morphine does, now is a terribble time for arthritic sufferers, cold damp windy weather makes bones just ache all the time, never have been absolutely painfree in the last 16 yrs always have a level of 2 or 3 while on the meds but this to Me is chronic pain releif.
at one time , I thought I would not be able to function before morphine sulfate ER, I started out on Avinza but changed to the generic morphine sulfate ER because of cost.
Phil , remember to take hot baths when arthritic pain gets bad an applie baby oil to painful areas, it feels better gives releif an lets your skin feel as it breathes, esp. the feet if sore or aching.
glad You got releif, WOODSTOCK
October 24, 2009 - 7:52pm
#19
Ibuprophen
Phil, remember this is all opinion and experience based on this site and nothing replaces your MD's advice. Ibuprophen is a great medicine and helps with mild inflamation. Since we share a DX, I want to remind you to ask your Rhuemy before adding IB to your meds. If you are already on high dose NSAID's, DMARD's, and Anti TNF's like I am, adding daily IB is very dangerous for you especially 800mgs. Like I said, we all want to help and mean nothing but the best with our suggestions, just do your homework, and always check with your MD before starting something new.
...I did the same thing when I took my first dose of MS Contin. Feeling a little tired is normal.
Even an opiate naive person would easily tolerate that dose. It's very low, believe me.
50% of your dose from that pill will be absorbed into your central compartment (brain, lungs, skeletal muscle, etc.) within 1.5 hours (compared to 30 minutes from MSIR,) so it's not a very big difference.
If you're having any "problems," the worst is almost over. I can almost assure you, it's anxiety. Morphine can also cause anxiety, like many other narcotics, so I'd discuss that with your doctor.
For now, just try to relax. Lay in bed with minimal head movement if you're feeling ill. Don't concentrate on all the potential adverse reactions. Don't constantly monitor your breathing.
What were you on prior to the morphine?