A possible ban on 7 pain medications

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Yesterday on the Today show a possible ban on 7 pain medications was discussed by the Todays shows doctor.A group of "concerned citizens" sent a request letter to the DEA and surgeon General asking for a ban on Oxycontin ER above 40mgs and most all Oxycodone and Morphine tablets of all kinds.It was mentioned that this group was in instrumental in banning Opana in July of this year.The letter states that any person without cancer or palliative(end of life care) be denied all pain medicines.A 90mg morphine cap would be put on all opioids. Anything over 90mg of Morphine per day would be denied. I made calls to the Today show and found out that there is a 172-day window before a t on all pain medications that equal decision will be made and the clock is running. You may find the story under opioid abuse at The today show.com or contact them at 212-664-4602 or 212-413-6142.....The doctor boasted about the Opana ban, so this is serious and will need people to get involved now or wake up with your medication banned in less than 6 months.I will provide updates on how to help.Peace, Rocker D

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Here is a Link To The Story

Here is a Link To The Story that Rocker Dan is referring to. I posted this because finding the article was difficult when using a mobile device.

I still do not understand why the safety of drug abusers has become more important than a pain patient's well being. The article actually mentions the reasons behind pushing for the ban are A: because daily doses above the equivalency of 90mg of morphine increases a patient's likelihood of accidental overdose and death, and B: because toddlers face death of accidentally ingesting them, and C: removing high dose opioids reduces a teenager's likelihood of death while they are experimenting with drugs.

My response to each is as follows: for A: if there has been no study showing higher dose opioids are beneficial to a patient currently taking above 90mg of morphine equivalent, point me to a study that shows it does any harm to a patient. These idiots are forgetting that the patients on more than 90mg of morphine equivalent medication never start out at that dose. The likelihood of a patient who has been on the above suggested dosing regiment dying by accidental overdose is slim. Also, removing the 80mg and 60mg Oxycontin only means Drs will have to write scripts for 40mg, two tablets, two or three times per day. This is an absolutely ridiculous, and short sighted, attempt to remove these drugs. 

For B: A toddler accidentally ingesting Oxycontin, or Morphine, is a failure on the parent's part to safeguard their medication from their kids. This is no different than idiotic parents who will not buy a safety car seat. What is the real problem here? The irresponsible parent, or the medication? 

For C: The reference to teenagers experimenting with drugs is absolutely ridiculous because it makes the assumption that all teenagers go through a drug abuse phase. I may be in the minority, but I never went through this phase. I couldn't try drugs due to being subject to drug testing throughout high-school, as well as college, because I was an athlete. I know not all teenagers are athletes, but that doesn't mean they are drug abusers. My HS required participation in a drug-testing program for athletes, students who drove a car to and from school, and students who wished to go out for lunch, as opposed to eating in the cafeteria. It was cometely random, and I was only tested once in five years (8th grade was grouped with freshmen, and treated as HS students), but the possibility of being subject to a drug test absolutely dissuaded me from drugs. The ramifications for a failed test were huge, and it was so easy to just avoid the mess all together. Instead of removing the drugs, why not adopt a better strategy to divert these teens from drugs and in to something beneficial to them? 

In short, these groups are using this "epidemic" for their own self-serving purpose with ulterior motives most will never know because the don't read. Speaking of which, does anybody even care? Nobody posts on this board anymore, and it's kind of sad. I see 30-40 "guests" online every day, and not one of them has an opinion on this? I feel like the effort to prepare my thoughts and to convey my feelings on a subject in a manner that is well thought out, and sincere, are for nothing. Even if you disagree with me- SAY SOMETHING. Conversation Sparks new ideas, and Lord knows we need to speak up now, or never. 

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Dear gtrPlayer, A big thank you to you. All I can say.I can not believe that NBC allowed her to read the "Citizens request" for the removal of almost all opioids.And the statement that a person would need to have cancer or be in need of palliative care to receive any pain medicine is foolish. If you can get a clip of that doctor from NBC and just see her gloating over the removal of Opana it will make you sick...or mad as ???$*.And gtrPlayer is right not many people do anything but read others posts or post whenever they have a problem, well believe me "they have a problem now."So thank you, peace, RD    p.s. If one has to take 2 pills so they can ban the higher dose that adds up to more money as we would have to take more pills and have to pay for twice as many pills and I take 60mgs of MS Contin 3 times a day and 3 15mgs of Oxycodone per day,that would break me if I have to pay cash..

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I just got home from an appointment with my pain management doctor. This time, the appointment was with one of my favorite Nurse Practitioner's, but it was a rough appointment. My dosage of my medication is being cut so low, it's almost like I won't be on anything at all for pain. I'm devastated. I have had good pain relief (not great, but good), and now I find out that because some parents didn't monitor their children, I'm pretty much losing my decent life. I am trying to be empathetic to the fact that parents have lost their loved ones due to drug overdoses, but I have always followed the rules. I've always had clean drug screens. But now, as pain management patients, we are having to endure punishment because of bad parenting. It isn't fair. It isn't right. But it doesn't matter. We are not seen as individuals. And as a group, it seems we will be losing everything.

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I am terrified of what is going on. Just a symptom of fools thinking they can protect everone from everything. In the real world this will never happen. You can't keep idiots from harmng themselves. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg of a much bigger problem. Safety, Safety, Safety. BS... How many good things have been banned because someone got hurt?? I am not getting any younger; I had a different job and required a much heavier dose of narcotics to be able to work. My fear was that if I needed stronger and stronger pain meds now, what would be left when I am older and in much more pain- so I switched jobs. The way it looks now I am still going to be in trouble.  20 years from now if the government has its way I wont even be able to drive a vehicle because cars with human drivers get into accidents causing injuries. Technically I am almost unemployable because employers wont hire people that take narcotics on a regular basis. On the other hand I personally have no quams about breaking the law if its doesn't break my moral code. Can anyone say black market?? NOBODY lives forever. I stand by armed and ready for the day when &??$ hits the fan because of a tyrannical government. I've always been a "whatever it takes" type of person.

My personal belief also is that a total ban like they are looking for won't happen because the drug companies have to much to lose. I only hope I am right.

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I hope you are right, too.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of the changes that are being forced on me. I only hope you're right about the pharmaceutical industry.

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....and it sounds like most narcotics will still be available, but in much smaller doses. It's ridiculous. There will just be more pills to keep track of, instead of taking one larger dose. SMH.

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I wonder if a corporation may be behind these ridiculous requests. It makes sense on a conspiracy theory level that the makers of Suboxone, and the like, would sponsor a campaign like this. It takes way too much researching to complete the dots, so I won't try.