He has swelling in both hands, has back pain, pain both legs.
He has been tested for RA, lupus,thyroid conditions, all tests come back normal
other than a flare-up of arthiritis , We are stumped.
any Dr.s or posters want to chime in on any condition it may be, my daughter thinks it may be fibromyalgia.
Woodstock
26 years old, He s a coal miner , working in a low cool damp enviroment, an coal mining is very strenious
every member of our family has been plague with some form of autoimmune disorder in my generation, 1 sister had mysemia gravis, Mother had Guilians berea, Brother has lupus an RA,I have gout,DDD, an arthiritis, Father died of cancer, an have a half-sister with cancer
thanks Goat will check your link out
Woodstock
...hard labour. Could it be he's just working too hard? I don't know what the conditions are in modern day American mines, but I can imagine the miners still have to get down and dirty like the good old days.
Working in a mine would cause most people those symptoms, especially if they're not extremely fit. When did he start in the mines? What does he do? What is his job?
a Roof bolter, the mines is still extremely tough place to work, most mines around here are non-union an You have to get to it an stay on the ball or start looking for another job, He is in execellent shape, strong as a bear, reminds me of someone You see in the MMA fighting in a cage match.
I ve worked both union an non-union jobs, an been treated by management better in some non-union mines than union mines
I put 15 yrs in the coal mines, last 10 yrs I would come out soaked to the hip every shift, where water would built up in the face an while standing in it it would absorp in your overalls an slowly creep up, like a lantern wick, a Dr once told me He was 65 yrs old a never had no arthritic pain, I Ask him just how strenious is your job, compared to the coal miner.
Woodstock
Mining is one of the professions that has not progressed nearly as far technologically as many other occupations. Before I suffered my career ending injury, I worked for years as an offshore commercial diver, so I can empathize with the strenuous work environment. Commercial diving, however, has an excellent safety record as an industry, due to the fact that OSHA and other governing bodies recognize it's extremely hazardous nature.
I think they need to look more into mining, the reason they have not, is that most of the miners are not in the tax brackets that the politicians tend to acknowledge. A great part of the whole OxyContin fiasco and the "hillbilly heroin" stigma originated out of W.V. and the doctors pushing on the hard working coal miners.
There are countless articles in journals on illnesses linked to coal/ coal mines. Toxic impurities in the coal itself, diesel powered equipment, poor ventilation in the mines, residual vapor, blasting chemicals, etc., are all contributing factors to the high rate of illness among miners. If you haven't already done so, check the internet on maladies afflicting coal miners. Most are cardiovascular that I've heard of, but this could be anything from working too hard to him being slowly poisoned.
Good luck
I was in the mines, a freind came down with chemical cyrociss of the liver, He went an found every chemical he was in contact on the job, the closest thing He found was a hi voltage cleaner that contained 127 different agents, an it stated on the label that for the use it required respitory wear an rubber gloves, neither was provided nor expained to any electrican that used this product weekly.
I used to be a safety committeeman, an after leaving the union I ve seen many changes that are nothing but sucidial plans, the use of blower ventilation which in case of mine fire would blow noxious or poison fumes directly on miners, the mine that fell in in Colorado I believe where they where extracting pillars between two longwall panels that where already mined out , that was pure sucide an the federal inspector that approved that plan lost his life, they as far as I know they never recovered the bodies from the 1st cave-in an there where one or two people died trying to rescue them.
what I deem a miracle is the story of the Pennsyvania coal miners that cut into a giant underground reseivoir whether it was a abandon mine I can t remember, the mine flooded the crew was cut-off from the outside, the water drained to the surface thru the entrance an there was high ground an air pocket in the face, those miners were extremely lucky , if it was a adbandon mine there is black damp or air that contains less oxygen in the atmosphere to survive, they survived for 3 days or more an they took an drilled a 36 inch an extracted them with a one man cage, an its the only one in existence in the whole USA, the federal goverment an the mining industry should have one extraction unit within 500 miles of any mine.
after working in the mines for over a decade, I know there is some rockdust or blacklung in my body but the proof of getting the evidence is a money rackeet itself, some programs are based on a 5 year period.
Woodstock
Look up Coppers disease. Not sure if it could be it or not? I was tested for it. Worth a look. Htmom
HTMOM: that is difinite lead he has a swimming pool , He moved into a new house an has handled chemicals to shock the pool that more than likely contains copper sulfates, He is highly allergic to hayfever, an according to the info I ve found on the internet copper sulfates are dangerous in parts per million in water.
I THANK YOU for this lead, Woodstock
Just want to wish your son the best, Woodstock. It's really frustrating not to have a diagnosis. Woody, I wish your son could make the same $ working somewhere else. All those stories you mentioned are really scary. Do any women work in the mines? I'm just curious.
MrsP
had 300 plus workers, 10 were women, We had a methane explosion an 1 woman lost her life along with 6 other men, there where 2 survivors from that working section, the only thing that stopped the fireball was a long deep waterhole that was kicked up an extingushed the flames as it ran thru that section of the mine.
the Pennsyvania story , was made in a TVmovie.
yes the women that worked at Our mine, were tough an pulled their weight.
Woodstock
I have had every test known to man because my disese doesn't follow the rules. Glad I could help! Htmom
Theres Rules???? Took me 5+ years to get my first DX now they just keep poping up and don't know where to stop LOL!
Hope your son gets an answer soon, it's so frustrating not knowing. He needs to insist they find whats wrong, the description could fit any of the 100+ forms of Arthritis plus multiple other things. It's so hard when there are so many conditions that mimic eachother or carry multiple similar symptoms. The best thing to do in those situations is keep a daily log on EVERYTHING from feeling dizzy, pain, GI stuff, ect. the more info he can give the better chance he has for a diagnosis.
...you boy doing?
the same, He saw the Dr. last week, but We have nt talk yet, will get grandson tommorow will try to remember to ask if they tested for copper disease.
Woodstock
Could it be the vibration from the roof bolting machine?I know that they are pretty rough.
its are to tell what the vibration an sound effects on the body, the noise is more of a nuisance than the vibration, the machine is stabalized by stab jacks an the T-bar roof support absorbs 99% of the vibration.
Woodstock






how old? any other details or health history?
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