October 11, 2006 - 8:28pm
Im no expert on these and have never seen what they look like.
I live in u.k. and even though technically they should be sold without prescription,the goverment have put some control on them.
the drug i beleive is called cyclezine(brand name)valoid.I have an american friend of mine,who loved them.
i have taken most drugs going myprob being opiates but seeing people on them is scary.has any one any info on these,or is it excslusive to britain.
the real shame is for people with genuine motion sickness "ive been sick in the carpark wAiting to board a ship lol.
any info would be appreceiated.
(edited by TeamPharmer)
October 11, 2006 - 10:38pm
#2
The spelling is Cyclizine.
The spelling is Cyclizine. It is mfg in India by Cipla and marketed under the name Marezine. It is also mfg in Hong Kong by GSK and marketed under the name Valoid.
From a VERY reputable subscription source
"Cyclizine tablets have been abused either alone or with opioids for their euphoric effect. They have been taken by mouth or used to make injections"
Additional uses described by this source:
"including motion sickness, postoperative nausea and vomiting, after radiotherapy, and in drug-induced nausea and vomiting. It is included as an antiemetic with some opioids, and in combination preparations for the treatment of migraine attacks"
"A) OVERDOSE EFFECTS -
1) Overdose may result in CNS depression and/or stimulation and may resemble anticholinergic overdose. Effects may include fixed and dilated pupils, flushed face, dry mouth, excitation, hallucinations, and tonic-clonic seizures. In young children, CNS stimulation is predominant.
2) Adult overdose usually causes CNS depression with drowsiness or coma followed by excitement, seizures, and postictal depression.
3) Severe toxicity in children and adults may result in deep coma, cardiorespiratory collapse, or death. Onset of symptoms may occur within 30 minutes to 2 hours after ingestion; death may occur several days after onset of toxic symptoms.
B) ADVERSE EFFECTS AT THERAPEUTIC DOSES -
1) Drowsiness, tachycardia, dilated pupils, decreased bowel sounds, and urinary retention are the most common adverse effects following therapeutic administration. Other adverse effects may include nausea and vomiting, dystonic reactions, and hepatotoxicity. The degree of adverse effect may vary with the class of antihistamine.
C)There are specific managements for diphenhydramine, carbinoxamine, promethazine, and the non-sedating antihistamines."
Cyclizine belongs to the benzhydrylpiperazine series of compounds which Meclizine belongs. Meclizine is used in the US under the tradename Antivert. This source says Cyclizine is commercially available in the US, but there is a lack of info on other sites.
Don't know if this is what you are looking for. I have never heard of it, but this is what I could find.
October 11, 2006 - 10:51pm
#3
Thanks again!
I just tried to use inferrence as a means to "guess" what this pill would be in the U.S. I have never heard of anyone abusing Antivert though. Thanks, Incognito for that post, and a lot of the page looks an awful lot like the indications and contraindications for Antivert. Makes sense if they are "chemical cousins"?
gtrplayer
October 12, 2006 - 9:35pm
#4
cyclizine
The knoweledge on this site astounds me even though ive only been amember for a week.
I have heard off it in u.k. called valoid and most chemists will consult your gp before selling them you.
I wont hide the fact that ive had probelems for years with opiaties ,mainly methadone 70mg a day.but after seeing people talking to their cornflakes and playing 8 ball pool with someone who wasnt there,id rather use them for what they were made for.
October 12, 2006 - 10:48pm
#5
this site
At least those people won their games of pool. This site is really good and entertaining for those of us who have a fascination with the pharmaceutical world.
gtrplayer
October 15, 2006 - 7:12pm
#6
cyclizine
i know its mega isnt it,im just constantly amazed by the collective knowledge on here.
October 30, 2006 - 7:29am
#7
I have heard of that! At
I have heard of that! At pain managment clinics, some say, "We dont give out phenagrane, or the one your talking about. I think its called something like that here. My friend asked why it says that? The doctor said because when mixed with a pain killer it is a SERIOUS Seditive, and people are abusing it.
Pill_Head
I am just curious if this is the American version of Meclizine or Antivert? If it is, I have seen it both as a prescription and OTC medication, kind of like Naproxen and Aleve. My dad had to take that medicine for awhile because of motion sickness due to vertigo, and it sedated him. I don't know why you would want to abuse this drug, as it just put him to sleep, but there are idiots everywhere I guess.
gtrplayer