May 9, 2009 - 8:50pm
not taking anymore then 45 - 55mg a day of oxycontin/oxycodone.. since about late febuary
Im getting ready to tell my doctor I want off becuase of the euphoria is starting to play a bad roll in my life..
But, when I mentioned this to my friend, she said that I could go into seizure from withdrawl from oxycontin,
Is this true? it REALLY has scared me into considering not wanting to get off..
The other withdrawls Im sure are going to x*#&, but tapering down slowly is still dangerous as far as siezures go?? thanks friends.
May 9, 2009 - 9:46pm
#2
Well I 20mg oxycontin ER,And
Well I 20mg oxycontin ER,
And I have 5m oxycodone IR.
I do abuse tho.. somtimes, not very often, This seizure thing just really scrared me.. Im curious to knw if that is true? what would be signs of it comming on?
And what can i do to safely taper down? I was told go by 5mgs slowly down? and neeer to stop cold turkey cus that could cause the seizure?
you have anymore advice charlie?
May 9, 2009 - 10:21pm
#3
Oxycontin Withdrawal
Seizures are rare to none and the amount you are taking is not very high. If you quit c/t it won't be fun but in about 4 to 7 days the physical part will be over with. The real part is the mental addiction which can last for 1 to 6 months. I would do a taper if in fact you are getting your meds from a Dr. he/she hopefully will know how to titrate medication for an almost painless withdrawal. If you taper on your own I would have someone you trust to dispense your pills out to you daily. It is next to impossible to taper yourself while you are holding on to your meds, you'll more than likely make deals with yourself like "I'll take an extra one today and make up the dose tomorrow"............. no way!!
All this is just my opinion I wish you the best of luck.
May 9, 2009 - 10:28pm
#4
Thank you firend. Yes I am
Thank you firend. Yes I am getting them from a pain management doc. and I have an apt, I beleive in 2 weeks Im going to tell her I want off. She told me that she will taper me off cus I mentioned before ever getting on them that I was worried about addiction and respirtory depression with the oxycontin. So I trust her..
As I said tho, my friend said to just reduce by like 5mg every 2 or 3 days, and it should be painless.. think its worth a shot till I see my doc?
May 9, 2009 - 10:56pm
#5
Why are you being treated . . . what is the Oxycontin for?
I appreciate your honesty about occasional abuse but I don't see any mention of your condition. Why are you seeing a pain Dr.? I also noticed that you don't have any proposed alternates for the Oxycodone, how are you planning to deal with your pain when the Oxy. is gone? Is it that your pain is already gone but you decided to just keep on keeping on with the meds? Sorry to be so nosy but I'm confused.........Q
May 9, 2009 - 11:30pm
#6
I have inflammatory bowel
I have inflammatory bowel disease, or ulcerative colitis. I get really bad abdominal cramping and discomfort.
Im gonna ask my doc if she can switch me to somthing not as intense,as I said the euphoria and withdrawls from the oxys are crazy.. im gonna talk about going to hydrocodone, like norcos or somthing... the tolerence obviously is going to juts keep building from these oxys. and It just kinda scares me...
May 10, 2009 - 12:06am
#7
HERBALGERBALS
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May 20, 2009 - 11:57pm
#8
Seizure
You will NOT seize. You may exp. involuntary leg movements, or spasms in your legs, but nothing along the lines of seizure activity. You friend may have been thinking of benzo. withdrawal.
The term "kicking the habit" came from heroin addicts who's legs would *^!&/ kick when the went cold turkey off the drug.
You can do it. Good luck.
May 10, 2009 - 2:02am
#9
Suboxone
I was just browsing and saw your conversation online, and thought i would try to help you out. I don't care what anyone says, oc's and lortabs are the hardest, most addictive drug on this planet. i've been on them for about 8 years and have tried to quit a hundred times. Rehab three times, cold turkey by myself for six days and the pain is unreal. Any opiates cause the body to stop the production of seritonin ( which is the chemical in the brain that makes you feel good and normal ) , and having no seritonin in your system will make you want to jump out your skin from the withdraws. Both times at Rehab my doctor told the group that 99.1 % of people addicted to opiates over two years will ever stay clean. Relapses usually happen within 3-4 weeks ( if not alot sooner ) . There is only one way to get off of them, and it's called suboxone. It's a miracle drug. It fills your opiate receptors up and tricks your body into thinking your still using. While on the drug ( after months and months ) you body will learn how to produce seritonin again which will make quitting and weening down much easier. They also have a rapid detox clinic in florida that works pretty well, but it cost like 10,000 dollars. Only a few doctors are licenced to prescribe suboxone so google your local doctors and see if there is one in your area. Even though i relapsed because i lost my suboxone script, i promise it's the only thing that ever work at all. Just make sure you never let a doc tell you too take methadone because once you get on that stuff you will never get off. I hope everything works out for you. trust me i feel your pain, i'm feeling it now. later
May 10, 2009 - 2:32am
#10
Thank you for your guys
Thank you for your guys replies.. I Really appreciate it, and I hope your journeys are manageable, and I am here for comfort or support from anyone else who needs, with that say..
So I noticed withdrawl trying to quit cold turkey, I experienced the leg syndrome, irritiabilty, and trouble sleeping..
that stoped with a little dose of oxycodone like 2mg,
Should I look out for trouble with breathing? or could that just be from anxiety? I am also on 50mg of prednisone at the moment.. and Im going to be tapering down from the oxys by 5mg every other day or so..
Again, Im sorry if Im going in circles, Im just triyng to get these thoughts out o my head (the siezing or breathing problems) so I dont induce anxiety you know? Thanks again friends. Much love.
May 10, 2009 - 3:05am
#11
methadone
I was on methadone and I got off of it.
May 10, 2009 - 11:46am
#12
Thanks for the extra info herbalgerbals
That really helped me understand where you're coming from. I am not a Dr. That having been said, I'm going to quote you a couple of things from "Taber's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary" 18th ed. and "The Merck Manual" 16th ed. The Dr. that Rx'ed you Oxycontin for ulcerative colitis, if indeed that is what you have, could be sued for malpractice. THIS IS NO JOKE!!!
From the "Merck": In the case of intense diarrhea, "after each loose movement . . . codeine 15 to 30 mg q 4 to 6 hrs may be required for more intense diarrhea. All these antidiarrheal agents must be used with extreme caution . . . less toxic dilation be precipitated." (italics are lifted straight from the "Merck" ch. 57 pg. 837)
From the "Taber's": "In ulcerative colitis, control of diarrhea by the use of codeine . . . must be done carefully to prevent colonic dilatation and toxic megacolon."
I do hope that you are aware of the fact that Oxycodone is simply a synthetic codeine. As you should know by now, it makes you constipated. With your diagnosed disease this can become toxic, dangerous. Both books said loud and clear that it is to be used cautiously only for the most intense episodes, not as a daily dosage in such a high amount. Are you sure that this was your diagnosis? My sister has the exact same diagnosis and has suffered from it for years, that's how I know so much about it. Her Dr. warned her strongly not to take any type of analgesic like Oxycontin, percoset, or tylenol 3.
I hope I'm getting through to you here. I'll be honest with you, like you said you were with us. I don't think you're taking Oxy. for that disease and perhaps not for any pain at all. I think you are taking them for the euphoria alone. Please prove me wrong. I don't want to believe this but your contradictory statements make that very hard to do. If I'm right, God forbid, you are still on the right site. We want to help you, not condemn you. Please come clean with us and we will do what we can.
God Bless You . . . Q
PS Hydrocodone is just another Opioid analgesic . . . it's also called Lortab, Vicodin, and Hydrocet when mixed with Acetominphen. Now you'll know what to ask for to get you off of Percoset, etc. Please get real with us or you might find yourself with an 800 lb. monkey on your back.
I have an uncurable cancer which is so painful that I've been Rx'ed 175 mgs. of Oxycodone a day. Once a week I try to cut down to only 60 mgs. to "clean out the system" for a day. Just the initial withdrawal effects are like the worst case of flu you can imagine and that's just the first day . . . with some help. You really don't want to go there!
May 10, 2009 - 12:26pm
#13
withdrawl
Herbal, what I was told on this site(and it worked wonderfully) is try to cut down to one-half of a pill every 3 or 4 days. Now if you are still on Oxycodone ER I cannot giive any advise because of the extended release formula. It also depends on how long a period you have to do this. What I was told was to do what felt comfotabale. I had over 40 days to completely be free of oxycodone. and for me that was plenty of time. I have heard of the horrific story's of going cold turkey and that was more than enough for me into scaring me to slowly wean. I will say that your body plays tricks on you into thinking you HAVE to have more medication but that is just what it is, a TRICK. I, myself was waiting in my jail cell for the terrible withdrawls that I was sure was coming anytime soon,it never did thankfully. Everyone is different and a lot of the withdrawls (for me ) were mental. OK best of luck and I am sure you can do it. PS. Be around positive people while doing this who will give you plenty of support
May 10, 2009 - 12:36pm
#14
Ahah quincy are you
Ahah quincy are you serious?
I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis 3 yeago, my abdominal cramp and pains are so severe it keeps me from walking going to school or working, wich is why I was PRESCRIBED oxycontin. my pain management doctor assured me it wasnt a big deal with my colitis, and said it would even help becuase of the constipating effects.
I eat a high moisture diet, lots of fruits and coconut water, I clean my bowels regularly, and take good care of my colon becuase of my condition and possible chances of cancer.
I have no reason to lie about this Ive posted about this in the past, Im sorry butI find it kind of funny that you think Im lieing about somthing like this.
2ndly, I know what hydrocodone is, I use to be on norocos, and before vicodin, Im ony oxycodone becuase I was taking so many of those vics and norcs I was concerned abot APAP in my system so that is another main reason they switched me to oxy.
I have already came acoss your readings on google, but I havent found that to be a concern for me, my Gastroeneroligist hasnt mentioned anyhting of that being a concern either.
Thanks for the assumption tho.. As I said I see my PM in 2 weeks, so I will tell her then that I have decided to taper down, and would like somthing not as severe on my mental clarity, maybe just stick with the IR rather then using somuch ER like she has prescribed...
May 10, 2009 - 5:56pm
#15
Sorry about that,
really, really sorry! My info came from the sources sited in my post and I got freaked out. I sure learned a lesson . . . I'm, once again, sorry that it was at your expense. No more "playing Dr." for me. I do hope that you realize that I was truly trying to help you . . . misguided as the attempt was.............Q
May 10, 2009 - 6:56pm
#16
awww quincy...you give good
awww quincy...you give good advice. I think your heart was definitely in the right place.
May 10, 2009 - 6:57pm
#17
taper if you can
i only take 3 x lorcet 10/650 per day and if I get into a point where I've taken 3.5 a day and run short, the three days before refill time can be miserable. insomnia, diarhea but all posters are correct that the pain is horrid. i don't know the seratonin aspect but it makes sense. your nerves are so reliant upon the meds that your body aches in all kinds of places that you didn't even know. every bump or bruise you've had from the past year suddenly pop up at once. an again that's me on an involuntary withdrawal on only 35 mg of hydro.
you have to want to quit for you. not for anyone else. don't lose site of that.
everyone on this board will help you in their advice. water, vitamins, heating pads, loperamide, sleeping aides like advil pm etc. look at it like you are purging your system of all toxins and maybe try to flush your body with lots of water.
i quit a two pack a day habit cold turkey. it took three attempts but i haven't smoked in over 6 years.
again, good luck.
you showed amazing insight in that you caught yourself and want to stop before you gateway into more and more and more and the tolerance goes up.
May 10, 2009 - 7:29pm
#18
Thanks Kelly,
I needed that.....................Q
elusive is right, herbal . . . you are a brave one, that's for sure. Best of luck and my prayers that you have no pain...............................Q
May 10, 2009 - 8:14pm
#19
Much respect and thanks for
Much respect and thanks for your advice really, I just have no reason to lie. <3
I really am thankful for your help and advice and I can assure you I will use it. =]
May 10, 2009 - 9:39pm
#20
Well all right then,
most marvelous. Let's hope that the healing will begin. If you can, please let us know know what happens as you quit. I'll be seeing my oncologist in two weeks and I'm going to ask him to change my pain meds. After a total of 2.5 years of Oxycodone I am not reacting to it very well these last two months. I had to switch to an IR from an ER due to the prohibitive cost of Oxycontin, which is manufactured by Purdue. There used to be a generic brand but Purdue, in the interest of their profits, sued. They won and people like me lost. If you feel that it helps, please share with us your spectrum of reactions as you wean yourself off the opioids. It would be a boon to us all. I sure hope that this isn't coming off wrong, like I'm prying into your life or pushing you to be "Up close and personal". That seems to be one of my side effects lately . . . both feet in my mouth but still typing.
Best of luck and good wishes................................Q
May 10, 2009 - 10:10pm
#21
Diarrhea and Amitriptyline
Hi Herbal =
Just to let you know, amitriptyline, which is a tricyclic antidepressant, is in my opinion the world's most constipating drug. It is used to help people sleep, treat depression (in large doses) and to help with pain relief. For me, even in very small doses, I had to walk around with a big container of water because I couldn't even get one whole sentence out without some water, and NOTHING worked for the constipation. I would have to quit the drug for a few days so, as Quincy said, l could let my body clean itself out. But that was bad for me because I was in a very unstable and deep depression and stopping freaked me out.
But run it by your doc. It is a more benevolent drug than oxycodone. Especially in small doses.
I hope you get to feel better. You have my sympathy, even though I don't know you.
Aurelia5
May 10, 2009 - 11:09pm
#22
I will try to keep a log of
I will try to keep a log of my symptoms and withdrawl, I am in a current flare for my Ulcerative colitis, so I do get some abdominal cramps, so that also leaves me with the concern of how well Im gonna be able to manage my pain.. ya know? so its a sticky situation, I just know the uncomfortable feeling I get from taking these pills everyday is not fun for me.. it seems its gotten Much worse, and things feel different since I started.. like if I dont take them, Im tired, and feel so weak, and have a head ache, but when I take them it gives me energy and I can go to school and get my work done etc. etc. I dont think that right.. After googling this, I read people ask there doc. to switch there pain meds to A. lower there tolerence and give there body a break, wich is why I was gonna ask or mention that sort of a transition to norcos or somthing calmer on the body, but still with somthing to manage my cramps and painful days.. and B. so I dont become dependent more then my body already is ya know?
Does anyone else agree with this? or could this be quite stressful and play an oppisite effect on my brain and body?
May 12, 2009 - 12:20pm
#23
WOODSTOCK WHY?
OFF TOPIC..
Woodstock , why do you use caps in most of your threads? Frankly, i think it's annoying unless you are trying to make a point using caps which means your yelling. I enjoy reading your posts, but will refrain if you continue or use the ignore feature I believe this forum has etc.
Peace-out!
XXX
May 12, 2009 - 1:40pm
#24
YEAH WOODIE,
LAY OFF THE CAPS, PLEASE. YA KNOW I LOVE YA DUDE BUT XXX HAS A POINT . . . THEY'RE ANNOYING. I'LL SEE AND READ YOUR POSTS IN LOWER CASE JUST THE SAME. PLEASE DON'T GO ALL CONTRARIAN ON US OR ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO TELL US ABOUT? IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE 'OL FOOT IN DA MOUF Q TO FIND OUT THAT YOUR DISABILITY IS YOU'RE ONE ARMED OR SOMETHING AND CAN'T HOLD THE SHIFT KEY DOWN AND TYPE A LETTER. love ya man,
q
May 12, 2009 - 2:23pm
#25
haha. glad to see were all
haha. glad to see were all friends here. =]
humor is great to have.
May 12, 2009 - 3:37pm
#26
Friends in need are friends in deed.
Glad you got a laugh out of that off topic stuff herbalgerbals (love that tag). I made my appt. with my oncologist this morning, he can't see me for a month so I'm gonna do what I can about the Oxy reactions. Thanks for listing your's 'cause I've noticed some of the same things . . . especially the fatigue/headache thing. I'll take a Perc. 5/325 and perk right up. haha Oh well, what's a person gonna do? Time to strengthen my will again! Glad we've put the past in the past, sorry I started it but what's done is done . . . nice that it's buried now. Don't Forget to Have Fun.......................Q
May 12, 2009 - 6:50pm
#27
Trying Suboxone
Hey. I'm new to this site and am currently trying to get off oxy's. I do about anywhere from 60mg to 200mg's / day (supply permitting). I was just given a suboxone by a co-worker today and i could not believe how well it worked! I didnt even think of oxy all day! It did give me a little bit of a buzz but nothing to write home about. The part I really liked is how it just made me feel like everything was normal. I really feel like myself again today. I went online and got the 800 # for it and called... They set me up with a doc in my area and i am awaiting a call back for an appt w/ him. I just want to know how long it takes for the suboxone program to work? How bad is withdrawl from suboxone? Is it detectable by a urine test? Thanks! I cant wait to get back in town and get to that appt and get my life back on track! I was getting very close to a point of no return and it''s time to STOP!!!!!!!! I'm getting married and have a baby on the way so this is over!
May 12, 2009 - 10:01pm
#28
Your problem needs a thread of its own.
Hi tryinhard, this is quincy. You need to read the rules at the head of the "Forums" chart and start your own thread. That way you'll get responses and you need some NOW! NOT TOMORROW>>>NOW!!!
There, did you hear that? We are here to help, not judge . . . but you are on thin ice and I can hear it cracking. You ask about withdrawal before you even start taking Suboxone. That's like saying, "I'm gonna be abusing these things real quick guys. Would you tell me how to abuse them with out any pain? " Yeah, I can tell you, "Don't start!"
Q
May 12, 2009 - 10:06pm
#29
I think he wants to get clean
I think he wants to get clean quincy.. I heard you can get severe withdrawls from suboxane too, I think its a legitimate concern, but I also believe it goes both ways.. So yea, withdrawls from oxy are bad... so are suboxone, but not as bad, That just what I was told..
May 12, 2009 - 10:34pm
#30
not a fake?
I really dont plan on abusing them at all. And you guys on here can believe EVERY word i say in these forums! I'm using this as a tool to help me get off oxy. If I start lying it wont help me any. I asked about the withdrawl from suboxone cause i am worried that going that route might just end up in being hooked on a diff drug instead of oxy ya know? Like i said i tried one today... well actually a half of one. it lasted all day and i felt great! No ??^%& no nothing. But with the good comes the bad and I just want to know the bad before i get too far. My ultimate goal is to b drug free and as fast as possible!!!!!!!!!!! So any help you guys have would b greatly appreciated! I already have tried to stop b4 and it was not cool! i let it get into bout day 3 and just couldnt do it anymore. i ended up in urgent care getting some zanny's and on the phone with my opiate dealer not long after.... So i have realized what i'm really up against here. i cant believe i let myself get this far but i'm ready to end it. Thanks Guys in advance for your help in my sober life! and ill start posting in the right spots! Sorry quincy! lol!
May 20, 2009 - 2:03am
#31
herbalgerbals
in your orginal post you said you were on 45 to 55 mgs of oxycontin/oxycodone a day, an your freind she told you if you withdrew that withdraws would do some harm to you.
this freind did she use oxycodone medication too
May 20, 2009 - 8:30am
#32
Withdrawal from Oxy
Anytime you are withdrawing from a narcotic such as Oxycodone, it's best that you get help. I have gone through the WDs many times in my life and to be honest with you, I would rather have a bad case of the FLU. I was in a detox hospital once and a guy that was there with me was detoxing from, get this now, 640 mgs of OxyContin a day. He was buying the 80s off the street and after his third day of detox, for some strange reason, he just fell on the floor and began foaming at the mouth. They took him away and he came back two days later feeling much better. The point being, yes, you can have a seizure withdrawing from these drugs. It all depends on your chemical make up, physical condition, etc. It also depends on how much of the drug you have been taking. Good luck to you my friend.
May 20, 2009 - 8:38am
#33
If you think W/D's
If you think W/D's are bad from opioids/opiates try detoxing from benzodiazepines then you will have a seziure!! I've also had my bout with W/D's from narcotic painkillers but from what you are describing ive seriously never heard of anyone having a seziure from the W/D. I do not doubt what you are saying is true thats crazy must have been some W/d for this poor guy!! Good luck to all those out there battling this horrible affliction. Just take it one day at a time.
May 20, 2009 - 11:28am
#34
sounds like the fella that fell
overdosed an had the effisence tablets under his tongue
May 20, 2009 - 11:51am
#35
YOU WILL NOT SEIZE
FROM OPIATE WITHDRAWAL. PERIOD. YOUR PAL IN DETOX WAS EITHER A POLYDRUG ABUSER OR HAD EPILEPSY.
Please don't create panic amongst the readers who may be withdrawing as we speak. Seizure has never been documented in even high-dose opioid/opiate withdrawal.
I don't know where you get your information from, but it's simply incorrect.
May 20, 2009 - 1:33pm
#36
I had read about it on google
I had read about it on google feliks, although it says its VERY rare..
and no, my friend was into benzo, but also had bouts with oxycontim..
May 20, 2009 - 1:37pm
#37
an update on my situation
OH BY THE WAY,
So as some of you know, I saw my PM doc yesterday.
Well, I explained that thins have been kind of wierd, and Ive been getting lots of anxiety and panic attacks etc.. (also she never gave me a urine test or anything)
She assured me it has nothing to do with the medications, and I should see a psychiatrist.
She even went as far as saying, she has never had any patients who have had anxiety or panic attacks because of this medication or from withdrawling, so she said she will write me another script for 1 month supply of oxys, and if I feel like the pain is getting slightly better, I can start taking One less of the oxys ER a day.. and to come back in one month to see her...
So, apparently these medicines have nothing to do with my anxiety or panic attacks / cloudy / kinda vivid feelings I get? Maybe its just going to take time for my body to adjust and kick ou the euphoria type feeling?
I guess Im just gonna stick with these meds.. and try to take as little as I can without feeling like complete &*&? so I can slowly taper my dose. maybe by 5mg?
May 20, 2009 - 2:33pm
#38
That's great news HG,
I like the sound of your PM Dr., especially the part about the Psychiatrist (PT). I've been seeing the same PT for about 7 years now and he has helped me immensely. I also prefer a PT over a psychologist (PG) since they have an M.D. and are usually more knowledgeable, especially on the topic of drugs. My PT is a 77 year young psycho-pharmacologist and he has control over all of my psychotropic drugs. As you know, I take Xanax 0.5 mgs. 4xday for anxiety and sleep. I also am Rx'ed Cymbalta 60 mgs. 1xday for depression and AdderallER 20 mgs. 1xday for ADHD. The Adderall is also good for cutting through the Oxycodone haze as well as helping me with my general lack of focus and hyper behavior like interupting people in conversations and jumping to unfounded conclusions. HaHa It's a mixture of amphetamine salts so it might not be advisable for everyone. That's what PTs are for.
Cymbalta is also Rx'ed off label for pain as well as depression. I think it's Magic! Ask about it . . . also check into getting something to help with that anxiety.
Oh, by the way guy . . . if you liked "Catch 22" you ought to check out "Being There" by Jerzy Kozinsky. The movie, Peter Sellars last complete one, was good but the book's better. Also, if you can find it, try "Trout Fishing In America" by Richard Brautigan. Most definitely, don't judge this book by it's title! Don't Forget to Have Fun my friend...
Q 
May 20, 2009 - 3:54pm
#39
WHAT?
FeliksD or whatever your name is:
I wasn't at all trying to create anything much less a panic. I was standing there when this guy, not a pal, but a guy I was in detox with just went down like a ton of bricks. Don't ask me where I got my information from and it is certainly not INCORRECT. I was a witness to it. Take it easy!!!
That doesn't mean anything though, and I wasn't inferring anything. He could have had all kinds of problems it's just that he happened to be withdrawing from 640 mgs of Oxy a day. Heck he could have been on all kinds of other meds, I don't know anything about that. I was only stating what I saw. I'll keep my words to myself from now on. You certainly don't need to read about actual events that happened.
May 20, 2009 - 5:44pm
#40
AT 640 mg OXYCODONE BUT LESS OXYCONTIN
this dude should been in a coma , long before he had a seizure
May 20, 2009 - 7:06pm
#41
Hey
...whatever my name is? HAHAH
I wasn't asking you anything, I was telling you. You are incorrect when you state opiate/opioid withdrawal can produce seizures.
Good idea about keeping the "words to yourself."
Your friend,
Feliks
May 20, 2009 - 7:27pm
#42
one more time...
Oxycontin IS Oxycodone
May 20, 2009 - 10:29pm
#43
no need for arguement.. I
no need for arguement..
I think stopping ANY medicine at once can cause problems on the body.. especially ones that are CNS depressents, so a gradual taper would only be healthy I believe.
May 21, 2009 - 6:58pm
#44
Clarification
The OP expressed concern about possible seizure during opiate withdrawal. This is not a reasonable fear. I was trying to put the OPs mind at ease, and assure them they would not seize.
I advised that they might experience involuntary movement of the leg muscles, "kicking the habit," as it is known, but nothing near a seizure.
Seizure is a potentially life threatening complication of withdrawal from true CNS depressants, (i.e. Barbituates, Benzodiazapines, Alcohol.) While opiates/ opioids do in fact depress the CNS, they are not classified as CNS depressants per se.
Many people visit this great site daily with questions about what to expect during narcotic withdrawals. It is not ethical to mislead them with false information. This points to the need for the communication on the board, so that we may filter out any false information posted, even if it was posted with good intentions.
That being said, anything can happen during withdrawal from most any substance, but in opiate withdrawal, if one were to suffer a seizure, heart attack, etc., it would likely be due to a preexisting condition, (epilepsy, hypertension, etc.) aggravated by the withdrawal, not the withdrawal itself.
P.S. I do not obtain my information from Google.
May 21, 2009 - 11:25am
#45
withdrawals
Correct. You cannot have seizures caused by opiate withdrawal. It's possible that the 640mg oxy withdrawal guy was also coming off of benzos.
A mom--You beat me to it.(post #42) Thank you! Its good to know that someone else is on the same page as I am with that.
May 21, 2009 - 6:59pm
#46
Felik
whats your opinion, on 680 mgs of oxycodone/oxycontin in 1 day
an a mom i glad you keep reminding us that oxycontin is oxycodone, i do have short term memory loss but not in the last 51 years
i can t even comprehend a persons liver lasting a week
May 21, 2009 - 9:13pm
#47
liver
680mg of oxycodone with no apap would not hurt your liver. I don't think so. I would think, if the person has that great of a tolerance, that their liver would be OK. Someone tell me if I am wrong because I don't want to give anyone that I know false information.
May 21, 2009 - 9:41pm
#48
their was nothing
no information of compunds , would only have to assume their be apap/asprin/or ibuprohen in them
if roxcodone 15mgs would befuddle a fella to say the least, a 680 mg a day habit would cost a fortune to maintain
this post sounds entirely too unreal to be true, would anybody be ok with anybody doing this extreme measure of medication, i truly speaking for myself would want to leave as if a person knew of another person taking this much medication an not speak to one s family member to let them know would truly would nt be a freind, if he overdose, i believe the police could possibility file charges for not protecting this indiviual
May 21, 2009 - 11:05pm
#49
I think this story could be
I think this story could be true. I have no reason not to believe the poster. I think it happens more than we could imagine. I doubt the person started the addiction with that mgs. I keep my nose in my business. I have enough to worry about. Drug addicts hurt us all. With that being said, doesn't give me the right to tell the addicts family. The addict will change his/her behavior when they are ready to. Sorry, but I did not mean to imply everyone at that dosage was an addict. Take care,htmom
May 21, 2009 - 11:20pm
#50
i too hot mom try to keep my nose
as we hillbillies say on our side of the fence
my post should ve said that if i knew that a indiviual was taking this hi of a doseage
i simply, would rather for him to keep phyiscally to theirselves, i truly would not be comfortable
if this poster said that the patient was in the end stage of cancer or in hospice care, this would make sense
I went through the same thing as you want to do and got my info from this site. I myself was on quite a bit of Oxycontin and the first thing I did was see my doctor and change from Oxycontin to oxycodone IR's I taperd off slowly until I hit 10mg. and stopped Now I had to do this because of a county jail sentence, which do not allow anytype of sched. med's. . I barely felt anything. I just had some unpleasant bowel movements for a couple says and just a little depression that passed quickly. I now just stay with the oxycodone IR's and found it works fine for my pain. If I need to my doctor told me I can go back to either morphine ER's or the Oxy's I wish you the best but I think by you weaning off slowly you will be fine