Link included to show the CDC is not differentiating prescription versus illicit opioids

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I am sorry for the recent surge in posts that I have been posting here, but I honestly believe that this is an issue that most people are aware of, yet have no clue about the facts. When the average person hears "opioid epidemic", most of them assume that prescription pain killers are to blame. This simply is not the case. What is worse, the CDC and DEA, as I've mentioned before, seem to be creating a smoke screen when mentioning this "epidemic" by being far less than transparent with their reporting.

Yes, an opiate is an opiate, but there are different classifications. Just as "a car is a car" is technically a true statement, it leaves out the fact that within that statement, "a car is a car", there exists thousands of different models and makes of cars. So, take a look at this link to the cdc, paying close attention to the first paragraph. Our government literally lumps H in alongside prescription painkillers. Ridiculous.

* a less recent publication from the CDC states the following: "

Drug overdose deaths hit record numbers in 2014

Over 47,000 deaths last year, mostly due to opioid pain relievers and [filtered word]

That is a direct quote. I have a severe problem with the fact that they throw opioid pain relievers in with [filtered word]. While both are opiates, only one of them is manufactured in a controlled laboratory environment, where the ingredients are known and must be followed. I understand people wil still overdose on pain medication, but I doubt those OD'ing on pain medicine have the same mortality rate as those who stick a needle in their arm, unsure of what their street product may actually contain.

To the CDC & DEA, in the event you are reading this: Be more transparent, and seperate prescription opioid deaths from H overdose deaths. There seems to be more of a scare tactic going on within your organization, and quite frankly, it feels like the government is misinforming us when they fail to state whether a legitimate prescription was the cause of death, or H caused the death. Scare tactics only work for so long before they backfire, and people begin to trust absolutely nothing you say.

 

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Different view, with link included, from a non-government agency

Please read THIS LINK from the National Pain Report, which details the fact that H has become the real problem.

To subscribers, and visitors alike, please note that I am speaking only my views as a chronic pain patient who has also been personally effected by the CDC and DEA crackdown on even legitimate pain management centers. I do not speak for Pharmer.org. What I am posting now, and will continue to post, are examples of how this "epidemic" has been blown out of proportion, and lumped prescription painkillers with H.

I know that there is an unfortunate tendency for patients who are chronic pain sufferers to have to resort to the streets for the drug after becoming dependent (not addicted) to their opioid medications. Even though one may lead to the use of another, you can not throw in overdose deaths from H with overdose deaths from prescription painkillers, and call the two even. Yes, both are opioids, but that is where the similarities end. It is like saying that because I drive a car, I drive a corvette. Sure, a corvette is a car, but that's where the similarities end. Exact same thing holds true with opiates.

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thank you

 when away from the board I forget to research things....I am sharing this on a fb group in my hometown.  thanks brother

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Re..

My hometown had 5 overdoses today of the H drug and 15 since September 1st...some needing multiple narcan doses...I think mandatory naltrexone implants should be required after the first use of rescue meds.

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I totally agree!

I think we have both said, since this whole issue with narcan, and overdoses in general, came to light that at the very least, someone administered naloxone,or Narcan, should be admitted to the hospital for a 72 hour hold. I know addicts who receive naltrexone get very combative, even angry at their rescuers, because in their delusional mind, the responder ruined their experience.

I swear, Goat, I am trying to understand this problem as a disease, but I just can not bring myself to do so. I can understand the overdoses that happen with the elderly, or the opiate naive who are taking a narcotic for someonething like wisdom teeth removal. However, these are not the type of individuals we are dealing with in regards to naltrexone administration being given on a routine basis.

I just, don't understand it all. On the one hand, I can see where an opiate naive person may take one dose and think, "this isn't helping, I'll double up", and accidentally overdose. Those are the true accidental overdoses. If you're shoving things in your arm to administer a drug- you do so with the knowledge that each and every hit could kill you. I want to be sympathetic, but I just can't find it in me to do so.

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to be honest

  Last week I was volunteering at the nature reserve clearing brush and got so overheated i had some scary symptoms hit me...very sweaty..and i found it very hard to talk ..i believe my throat was constricted.  I changed shirts and sat down in the air conditioning..drank a gator aid and started feeling better.  i have been on fent for at least 6 years i think and that was maybe the 3rd time its happened.  We must remind ourselves all the time to watch ourselves. I dont drink at all period.

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Fent and the Heat

I was told to stay out of the high heat and humidity for the same reason. Also, due to excessive sweating, the patches keep coming off.

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patch covers

Dear TUX, I was on the Fentanyl patch for several years and they make a patch cover that is clear and has adheseave around edges.These are used for covering  IVs and other medical reasons.Most pharmracys have or can order and they are waterproof and work well.I went for 2 years before finding out about these.check them out as they make all the diference!!!

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Getting hard to obtain medication:

It is getting harder and much more difficult to obtain the medicine I am used to getting for my various back conditions.I shall not go into my medical shortcomings as I have been on narcotic medication for over 33 years.I went to my pain management doctor this past year and was told of the CDC and Surgeon Generals "request" letter to cut patients back by a whopping 30%.After investigating this I found out that the US Government has be directed to tell pharicutical companys they will receive less raw opium in order to produce the necessary medication therefore not leaving enough raw opium for any shortages.the amount allowed for commercial use has fallen for the second or third time since 2010.So if anyone's wondering why we were told to cut back by 30% this is why.I am in agreement with various "Pharmers" that the mixing and intermingling of H users and opioid pain medicine is so wrong as it gives a false record and is fodder for the news makers to glamorize their story's.Now as i have stated before we as pain patients must be part politician and part reporter when we go to our respective clinics and or doctors in order to keep up with the countless pieces done in print and on T.V.So at least with my doctor if I go in for my two month appointment i must say i am in pain even if i am not as at my clinic if I say "I feel good today"this is a precursor to me being lowered in regards to my meds. I wish everyone hear the best and also to feel well.RD