the rules... words, and how far you can go with description?
i think the rules on words that i am allowed to use, and methods of dosage should be more specific. i was threatened with a ban for a post i made, using a word that is commonly known as a dosage message to most people. the info in the post that was heavily edited and then a ban threat at the end could have potentially saved a life with a certain pill if only the word could have been used.
i was describing a way a certain person used xanax and the way he used and i described was edited out. if the edit did not happen, then maybe with the 'odd' xanax gg249s people would know and be more cautious, or possibly avoid that method of dosage if it had not been edited out.
please make a list of words i can not use, i do not like walking on egg shells when i am only trying to help out. now that the certain part of my post was edited, someone with these pills may dose themself in this way when i made it perfectly clear that the person who used this method with that pill (gg249) was rushed to the ER.
i fear its now possible that a member may use this method which i am now affraid to mention with the strange gg249 xanax, and end up in the ER, while the whole time if my post was not edited the same person may have read my description of the way the guy who went to the ER and decide not to use the method of ingestion that i described.
Walk the straight and narrow, keep your nose and rear for that matter clean around here and you'll be fine. If you would be embarassed to tell your grandmother the method you ingest illegally obtained pills, you probably shouldnt talk about it here. Or if you think a doctor will cut off your script if you told him/her your method of ingestion, said method should probably not be talked about around here. Not sure if you were talking about taking your meds via the hood ornament or the bumper but either method is unsafe even when abusing real meds that arent fakes obtained illegally online. Youve been a member for 35 weeks, you should have picked up on the tone of the board by now. As kirby said, there are plenty of sights that are out there that you could "warn" other abusers on.
well i would hope i could warn the abusers here.... lets not act like there is not a drug abuser who obtains pills illegally and uses them in non cenventional methods that prowls this site and knows about the gg249 xanax fake pills and may be tempted to crush and not use apple sauce or mix in a drink.
solo i was talking about another guy using his 'hood ornament' on a bootleg pill and being rushed to the ER
all i edited was in bold print/and it was "hood ornament" method...that and people use the term eat/or ate so many pills...how about the word took or take instead? sounds much more intelligent don't you think? its not hard to post here///i was warned when i first joined.
While the rules on the boards may seem a bit strict, it's due to the nature of the site. Talks of controlled substances of such can obviously attract some people that..... don't use medication properly, per say. The site focuses alot on opiates and benzo's, with alot of people coming through to use the ID resources. I know what pills i'm prescribed and can tell them apart.... but someone without a prescription (i.e. someone who obtained them illegally) may be here to look up some newly obtained pills. I want to stress that i am not refering to you, only a minority of people here. It's a situation that can't really be helped. Try not to take warnings to close to heart, I've received a good few in my day since i have a bit of a pottymouth and let a swear slide here or there. The admins here are reasonable and will talk to you if there's a problem and won't ignore you if you explain yourself. Without admins the boards would be full of posts about fake/illegal online pharmacies and other posts no one would want to read.
I have noticed this also. In the past 20 years, more people talk about eating their pills. Mostly it seems to be by people involved in drug culture, but often now just people who take a lot of pills. Traditionally, one would "take a pill". But then the term "take a pill" was derogatory slang in the 80's for "calm down". Perhaps the language here is just evolving and you and I Goat are just too old and being left behind. Maybe we can do a poll?
go to your Dr. and say that you have ate all your pills early, that eating them is not what it was...I bet most people refrain from talking slang in front of the doc.
I am glad I stumbled onto this particular forum, I have a clearer idea of language restrictions and "better" terminology that we should, as responsible adult, use. I can appreciate that there are people coming thru here with not the best intentions and so it is important that we watch what we say. And yes, Goat 'n' Dr. Lois, I am 50 yrs old and agree that the slang has changed. I catch myself saying "hmmm, did I eat my heart pill today?" lol, but seriously, I am glad to be here. Rena
I used to say "Drugs" when refering to medicine, I used to say "eat, ate" instead of take or taken. I try not to use those words anymore, because, well, when you're speaking with your doctor or pharmacist it just doesn't sound too reliable on your part and kinda of makes you look like a drug addict. I've also noticed that, even when talking about narcotics, benzos, or whatever, if you just say medicine, you don't get nearly the odd looks from people. I think in this day and age "Drugs" implies illicit/illegal "Drugs", crack, [filtered word], [filtered word], [filtered word] (SP?)....
Ray
I'm new here and just picking up on the "tone" of this board.
I also generally use the word "medicine" or "meds" when talking with my doctor / nurses /pharmacy about medication.
Glad I stumbled on this thread.
I've noticed at my job, that alot of our latino patients (and I definitely do not mean this in a racist or inflammatory way, its just an honest observation) say they "drink" their pills. Which, in a way makes sense, since when you "take" a pill, you usually drink it down with water.
This is an interesting conversation. I am glad to find it. I was not even aware that I was 'eating' my pills! I also never say medicine... I always say, I need my pills. That is sorta negative also.
There is nothing wrong beavis with pointing out cultural differences. I too hear many mexicans refer to taking their medicine as drinking a pill.
In Spanish they use the word Tomar, which in translation means to Drink but also to Take. So when translating from Spanish into English the word can change into "DRINK" instead of "TAKE".
in spanish for "drink" is Beber. That literally means to drink. Tomar is a verb that means literally "to take"... I lived in Spain for 2 years and speak fluent spanish. I suppose that the two could be used interchangably in a situation such as one that we are speaking about.....It's just semantics...
Ray
Semantics yes, I take my knowledge from the mexicans around me.
I have a few questions folks,
If they are online and illegal, can you go to jail for this?
and if they are illegal why do folks go online and order them if they know they can get in trouble?
I mean I dont get it.
I have a few questions folks, If they are online and illegal, can you go to jail for this?
Yes, depending upon the substance. Most likely you will get a warning letter and have the item confiscated but you could be arrested.
and if they are illegal why do folks go online and order them if they know they can get in trouble?
Same reason people speed, run red lights, drink while driving, cross borders with no passport or visa, shoplift, write hot checks etc. Some people are 'risk takers' and don't think that they will be caught and/or punished.
Thanks for the input. I just do not understand that they would take a chance if they are seeing PM's or GP. I just dont get it that is all. I would never jeopodize my GP as he is the one giving me my meds. I would never never want to get him in trouble nor me. So you think that these folks risk takers do not have doc's to go to? or do some of the folks go to docs and still get more?
The only thing that bugs me about this site, censorship-wise, is that some really tame words get censored. If I say "I s.c.r.e.wed up," it gets edited to "I $%#&ed up", which looks like I'm saying something really rude- which I'm not. Not that big a deal, I just don't want people to think I'm dropping an F-bomb when I'm not!
why not use a word like messed up...which i know will not be filtered...the word s.c.r.e.w.e.d if not filtered could be used in a nasty insult..also going around the filters to post these filtered words is a no no.
Haha, yes, that's true. I didn't even think about an insult that would utilize that word, Goat. Admittedly, I'm a bit of a potty-pouth in person (very bad, unladylike habit) and any insult that would use it would be far tamer than anything I'd normally say (not that I would swear or be rude on this forum, of course. Just saying in general.)
I'll try to remember to use "messed" in place of... the other one. :D
You know the really funny one that happens a lot? When someone says, 'yeah, that medicine was really %@$$*## my stomach' translated to, 'yeah, that medicine was really h.a.r.d. on my stomach.' LOL I've said something like that a few times and I was like what in the world did I say that would have been innapropriate about my stomach. Then it looks like I did say something really bad. The first time I said that and it bleeped me out it took me a minute to figure out why that combo of words would be filtered. Then when I figured it out I about peed myself! There was another time I told Quincy not to be so h.a.r.d. on himself and Goat changed it for me since I hadn't noticed so Quincy didn't think I was calling him a name or something hehe.
instead of that phrase...always a diff choice of words
that filter is worth it though...trust me on this. 
we do see what was posted.
I'm not really annoyed by the filter or anything, I just think it's funny sometimes when certain phrases or words are bleeped out that are said in a completely innocent way, like the time you changed when I told Quincy that he's too h.a.r.d. on himself to he's too tough on himself or something like that. I know Quincy knows I think the world of him, so I know he wouldn't of thought I was saying something rude, but it's just funny and always good for a laugh.
The only thing that bugs me about this site, censorship-wise, is that some really tame words get censored. If I say "I s.c.r.e.wed up," it gets edited to "I $%#&ed up", which looks like I'm saying something really rude- which I'm not. Not that big a deal, I just don't want people to think I'm dropping an F-bomb when I'm not!
I just had that happen to me today PF, and I was shocked. I used a perfectly acceptable (I thought) word for a person's behind. and it wasn't the curse word! I thought it was funny. I couldn't believe I got censored. I'm like you, PF, I do have a potty mouth in person (hey, I'm a tomboy, my father's "son" and was in the army - go figure) but would never be rude on the board. And to get censored anyway?!? Well! I never! LOL.
Hehe... I'm glad you understand, BeavisMom! That's just it- it looks like something REALLY bad when it's actually innocent, and although I'm sure most of the regs here are familiar with the filter, it still looks really mean if the wrong word happens to get censored!
I'm a potty mouth because I'm a tomboy as well... I grew up going to my dad's hockey games, hanging around big ol' beer-drinking hockey playing blue-collar men, hehe. I could spit and swear like a pro by age ten ;D
I'll try my best to remember about the words, but just to be on the safe side... if anyone thinks I'm cussing at them in the future... I'm NOT, and will be happy to apologize and change the word! :D
You know, PF, I never learned to spit! I tried and tried and even had boyfriends try to teach me and I never learned. Just ended up drooling down my chin!
Kelly, I had the same thing happen when talking about motrin being *tough* on the stomach, then when I finally figured out why those two words were sensored I could not stop laughing. Hope to God no one shares that much info with us on whats going on with their reproductive organs.
Ladies, ladies, ladies....Spitting? LOL, reminds me of Titanic where she says "Spit like a man", and then mother-has-her-knickers-in-a-wad walks up and Jack has it all down his chin.
Hey mrbrandman, sometimes a lady needs to hold her own in a man's world, even if it means being able to spit like a man! ;D Oh, and BeavisMom, speaking of Titanic... the advice Jack gives in that scene is correct. You really gotta hock it back... get some leverage in there... okay, this isn't an appropriate conversation topic I'm sure... LOL
EDIT: I was reading some of the earlier posts in this thread, about what people say when refering to taking their medication. I say "eating my pills" sometimes... I have no idea why, but I say a lot of weird things. My boyfriend and I also have a code that we use when around people that I prefer not to tell about my medication, haha. I just tell him "I've got a craving for M&M's," and then he knows that we need to stop by the pharmacy on the way home. It sounds silly and perhaps a bit immature, but I'm quite sensitive about it... I don't like people knowing anything about the medical issues I have. I wear, like, six bracelets on the same wrist as my Medic-Alert bracelet, to sort of draw attention away from it I guess... heh. Probably kind of silly, since the idea is to have it highly visible in case of an emergency, but I trust that a paramedic would notice it.
have nt seen country ladies chew tobacco, My Grandmother, an Mother-in-law both chewed tobacco, an I know a few Women that will chew today.
wonder if the word filter will bleep the word *^&&!*.
Woodstock
yep it did
That is actually smart PF, you can become a target if the wrong person hears you are taking pain meds. I had my truck robbed and thank God I took my pain meds in the house, which I almost didnt. That is what they were after atleast in part because an empty oxy bottle was in the center console and they broke it over my dash board. It was cracked to pieces and my dash damaged like they were angry there were no meds in there. They took everything else though, from a a brand new Silverado that had an alarm system armed that didnt go off. I was up too!!!! Wrapping Christmas presents with my wife, and we almost left all out gifts in the truck too! The dealership gave me free oil changes and 50% discount off any service or part that I wanted for my truck. I put on running boards and a bedliner as well as much more and paid very little. They didnt get off so easy either. They stole a phone that was charging in my truck that had family locator activated on it. I got the location, staked it out, took pics of all the stuff from my truck sitting on their porch and called the cops. I had my police report I filed after the break in ready as well as the pics and things didnt work out so well for them. Ill help anyone I can but there are two types I CANT stand, a liar and a thief!
Oh wow mrbrandman I'm sorry that happened to you :( I'm glad you are okay, but it's too bad about the damage to your car... how ridiculous, destroying someone's property over a bottle of pain meds. Of course, addiction can drive people to insane lengths, but still.
I don't take anything that anyone would really want to go after except Percocet, which I only use occasionally. I use Arthrotec and cyclobenzaprine daily, plus Tylenol 1 if it's unusually bad, and the Percocet if it's REALLY bad, but I take a lot of meds for other stuff as well (asthma meds, anti-anxiety meds, and some other stuff... just a bundle of fun I am...) and I just feel weird about having people know that I literally have to take, like, a handful of pills a day, every day.
My doc told me when she prescribed the fentanyl patch was " DO NOT tell ANYONE you use/have these" for obvious reasons. Addicts will go to any lengths to get these as they are the cream of the crop when it comes to pain meds. I keep all my meds locked ina fireproof box in the safe we have built into the floor. It's impossible to find if you didnt know it was there and no one but me and mom know. It might seem a little extreme, but because of the controlled meds. Fentanyl, Xanax, and Lortab plus my HIV meds which have no street value, but cost me 3000+ dollars a month, I dont want them stolen. Ray
had my door kicked in right in the middle of the day. from some im sure friend at the time. only thing missins was 60 vicodin es darvocet bottle and a bottle of psych meds. and i live next to a fbi agent at the time and this was middle of the day just kicked my front dooor in. the damage and being violated was worse than the stupid meds they stole, oh ya right next to the vicodin was a bottle of OxyContin 40mg about 60. idiots. then the police have the nerve to ask if they were my meds and rxd to me, addd insult to injury. i had brinks wire my house the next day, and my meds are in a fire proof safe now, a very heavy one, for 2 reasons, 1 theft, and 2 to protect my 2 and 4 yr old children from getting there hands on htem. i wouldnt be able to live with myself if one of my children had gotten into my meds, and little ones can get to just about everything. well i doubt he can crack the safes combination so i think im good. thieves and liars i cannot stand. if i feel funny with my wallet and a bottle of meds on my table you shouldnt be at my house.
Your posts on this thread . . . all I can say is that me 'n A5 resemble those remarks! The 2 of us cuss like sailors and the really funny thing is that we both picked up that bad habit from our mothers when we were kids. My Mom is still trying to rid herself of this habit and she's 78 with 22 years of VERY successful AA behind her. She says that cussing is harder than booze to quit but at least the W/Ds are only a bunch of tongue biting. lol
Oh yeah, except for jerryla, who is 72, so far I seem like one of the oldest guys on this forum at 55. I do have a good friend here, she knows who she is, that's also 55 but that's about it.
My real point here is that after a couple of months or so I sorta fell into the swing of things and no longer have to think about eradicating my foul language. There is one word though, that I cannot live/write/talk without, however I did come up with one that, to me at least, is just as satisfying . . . "gritch", which is a combo of gripe and you can take it from there.
Kelly, I remember that incident, it was hard to understand what you meant with the replacement word, huh? There's another super clean word that's on the hit list that at first I had Zero idea why it was banned . . . c.l.a.m. Enjoy the weekend . . . Q
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LOL! You guys are so funny. Mrbrand, I never even thought about the words for tough on the stomach. Never would have occurred to me! And PF and I are allowed to spit if we want to. As she said, sometimes its a man's world and she and I are doing our best. so there!
Come on Woodstock. We just meant saliva spit, not "t'baccy"! LOL.
PF, its funny about your M&M's. I don't know why but that reminds me about terminology for a bad habits my husband and I have. (I wonder if it will get censored? I'll have to come back and check). But I have, I guess you would call it an addiction to nasal spray. And hubby is addicted to Primatene mist for his asthma. And I never thought about it before but once at a party, I told hubby that "I'll be right back, I have to go out to the car for a [censored]". (I left my purse in the car with my Afrin in it). You should have seen the looks on some people's faces! I was only referring to Afrin, but you know what they all thought! And hubby calls his inhaler his "huffy" and says that he "needs a huff". Again, it could have totally different conotations than the innocent one to which he is referring. But I sure understand about having people know what you take. People just don't need to know not only your health issues but certainly don't need to know about any narcotics. As Brand mentioned, you never know when you might get stolen from.
Oh, Brand, I'm sorry about your truck. How ridiculous! The lengths some people will go to. I agree with you. I cannot abide liars and thieves. I've had enough of both in my life. Personally, I'm brutally honest to a fault and can't understand people who aren't.
Ray, I have to admit that I think a safe is a good idea. Its horrible that such a thing is necessary, but definitely smart.
Hey Q-man! If you resemble our remarks, then you are certainly in good company, huh? LOL! Did you teach A5 to spit or did she teach you!
have nt seen country ladies chew tobacco, My Grandmother, an Mother-in-law both chewed tobacco, an I know a few Women that will chew today."
Woodstock, you think not? Oh, contraire! I used to be a home health aide in rural Georgia eons ago. Just loved those folk. These poor people lived in shacks , some of them had pumps outside in the yard for water, chamber pots under the bed for a commode and yep! many of them chewed t'baccy! Ptwouee. They were probably the most humble, sweetest people you could imagine. I was supposed to go by their homes and help bathe or dress or do toenails or whatever. I would show up and ask what did they need? what could I do? And they would say "oh, honey. You been workin' hard all day. Why don't you just sit a spell and talk to me for a while?". Sometimes, all they wanted was for me to do their hair. I remember this one sweet little ole' black lady. Her son had just died of AIDS. And I'll never forget, I was trying to learn how to "platt" her hair (which I never learned and she never complained about. Poor woman probably looked like Pipi Longstocking when I was done, no matter how hard I tried and she never complained) and she was watching her "stories" (soap operas) and I was doing her hair when a news bulletin came on about the Challenger explosion. I'll never forget that.
What was the Challenger explosion? Did you mean "plait" her hair, like french braids or the plait you do when you are braiding extensions in someonens hair? It amazes me at how woman do things like that with hair. My wife is finishing up cosmetology education and I hear all kinds of words I have no clue about all the time, thats the only reason I ask.
You are 25 years old. You were a toddler at the time of the Challenger tragedy.
Isn't this disaster discussed in high school and college textboooks??
The Challenger explosion happened about 20+ years ago. You can read the basics at Wikipedia and then can do more research:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
And just 6 years ago we had another disaster.
I was sitting here at the computer on a weekend morning with the TV on in the background. All of a sudden history repeated itself and iterated that space exploration is an extremely dangerous endeavor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia
We've learned a lot from these patriots' bravery. But, unfortunately, we've lost wonderful and curious minds.
Platt(sp) is a type of braid but.not like french braid. Most all African-American young girls have their hair platt/ed. Very painful. The Space shuttle Challenger that exploded shortly after lift off. It had the teacher on board that won after a nation wide search. Her name was Krista McCoulloh (sp). It was a big deal and my school was watching it live, yikes! I know I have said this a million times but my pm is out of town and my pharmacy is also out of town. Kind of a pain but I do it.Htmom
Thanks, htmom. I couldn't explain it. I don't think I spelled "platt" correctly either and I know I didn't DO it correctly! LOL. But that sweet old lady let me anyway! It seems that most of our schools around here are named either after the astronauts or after the shuttles. I'll bet there are probably at least 10 Krista McCollough schools around here.
MrBrand! Oh goodness! I didn't realize that not only are you that young, but also clueless! LOL. (you know I love ya, dude!) I always think that everyone is aware of those sorts of things since I live so close. When the Challenger exploded (20 years ago!!!???!!! Really? Goodness I AM old!), I lived in Georgia, and now I live in FL, not very far from Kennedy Space Center. We can see the the shuttles and rockets when they go up. Oh, the night launches are the best! Beautiful. Thanks Kirby for the explanation and links for those young and clueless among us! I too would have thought that such things are discussed in our schools. Kinda sad actually about the state of our education system, isn't it? I also remember where I was when Columbia exploded. I couldn't believe that it had happened again. So many years without tragedy and then it seemed like it was only yesterday when it happened again.
That is a sweet story!! Beavis when we where growing up there were only so many channels on tv, unlike today. I remember it being on the news all the time. My son's 5th grade class went to DC and Arlington cemetary. I was the only parent that knew her name. There is a head stone at Arlington for the challenger astronauts. Htmom
Yeah, the type of braid your are talking about is the one my wife was telling me about. Yes, I am a young'in, and most think I am even younger. I have such fresh skin and such a youthful appearance people have always thought Im years younger than I am. I still get carded at rated R movies, and a nurse once asked my Granny if I was old enough to drive after an appointment I drove her home from.
Thanks for the info and links Kirby, greatly appreciated. If it was mentioned in school it was just a blurp, I was on a college prep course and took all advanced classes so you think it would have been in there. Its possible it was included in the regular or remedial classes since our texts were extremely different. In AP US History we covered a chapter a day so if it was a blurp, I would have passed it by rather quickly.
OMG, brandman! "dewy fresh skin and a youthful appearance". Gee, should we ask what skin products you use? (I haven't gotten carded in a while! You make me mad!) 
Htmom, really? I didn't know that they had headstones at Arlington! Are they buried there, or is there just a monument?
ETA - oh duh! I'm sorry. I forgot there isn't anything to bury. My bad. Yikes.
Mrbrand, I must admit I was thinking of you this morning when a shuttle woke me from my bed. I was half asleep, hubby was totally asleep and there was this huge BOOM!!! that sounds like a huge explosion in your yard. when the shuttles break the sound barrier upon re-entering the atmosphere it results in the huge boom, which shakes the house, rattles the windows and really upsets my dogs! Goodness, all four of them will bark for like five minutes and there is no quieting them. It scares me every time because I'm not really a big follower of the space program, so I never know when the shuttles are coming back.
Well then, we are officially friends! Did you tell your husband you were thinking of another man in bed? 
Kind of sounds naughty when you think about it the wrong way! Get your minds out of the gutter peeps. B Mom knows I was just joking, and if her husband wants to beat me up, Im pretty sure I can buy my safety with a Norco or two. Feel free to kick my rear B Mom, ( | )
I hope you had a great Thanksgiving B Mom.
OMG, Mrbrand! ROFLMAO!!!!!! Buy your way with a Norco! LOL! I daresay you are correct!!!! I would never kick your ^*#%, Mrbrand, because the both of us would be writhing on the floor in pain! You continue to crack me up!!!
Yes, Turkey day was nice. My parents and kid and his wife came over. Hubby cooked, I baked and it was pretty nice. How was yours?
Y'all are totally cracking me up with this thread. First with "tough" on the stomach, then spittin not t'baccy, and now This. Thank you for putting a smile on my face.
Trying not to lurk,
MrsP
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