September 20, 2008 - 9:42am
Mallinckrodt was giving permission by Purdue Pharma to sell generic Oxy's starting in late Sept. 2008 through the end of 2009 and also received approval on July 24, 2008 by the FDA to make there generic OxyContin. They will be selling 10, 20, 40 and 80mg tablets. There appearance is as follows:
10mg Tablets- White round convex tablets M in a box on one side 593 on the other
20mg Tablets- Pink round convex tablets M in a box on one side 594 on the other
40mg Tablets- Yellow round convex tablets M in a box on one side 595 on the other
80mg Talbets- Green round deeply convex tablets M in a box on one side 596 on the other
Link to Prescribing Information
Link to Press Release
September 20, 2008 - 12:40pm
#2
Wow, This is the first month
Wow, This is the first month that I had to switch to Morphine Er tablet's because of insurance problems having brand name RX'd This is great for me
September 20, 2008 - 2:08pm
#3
Considering the mixed views
Considering the mixed views on Mallinckrodt I believe Goat is correct
September 20, 2008 - 3:04pm
#4
Most people have mixed views
Most people have mixed views on the mallinkrodt hydrocodone not oxycodone. I have no problems at all with their oxycodone. What I do find weird is that they never even made a generic oxycontin to begin with yet all the other companies got lawsuits saying they cant make it and then a different pharm company all of a sudden gets approved to make them. Also why arnt they making generics of the new 15 30 and 60 strengths? Since they are new does it have that 7 year patent thing? I thought that was only for new meds not new doses.
September 20, 2008 - 6:02pm
#5
i do agree
that Mali 512 percocet has worked like a champ for me. yea its only 5 mg but i bet these will have a pretty good rep once they get distrubuted.
I am not a Dr. I just play one on tv.
September 20, 2008 - 7:00pm
#6
It appears that the are
It appears that they are going to be pretty cheap compared to the brand name as well. www.drugstore.com has prices listed for generic Oxycontin, but Im not sure if they are prices from the old generic tablets or the new ones...maybe someone will know. Either way, I dont see there being much difference in price between the old generic and the new generic.
September 20, 2008 - 7:19pm
#7
Since when did mallinkrodt
Since when did mallinkrodt even make a generic oxycontin previously? I have never seen one and i;ve seen a lot of the different generics. I know they make generic percocets and roxicodone but i didnt know of a previous mallinkrodt generic.
September 21, 2008 - 2:40pm
#8
When I said "the old
When I said "the old generic price" I was refering to all the other companies that used to make generics... Teva, Watson, etc. Not Mallinckrodt. I was hoping someone would be able to look at the prices at www.drugstore.com and see if they are the same as what they used to be, or if they appear to be new prices.
Also, unless you happen upon someone with insider information I dont think we will ever know exactly why Purdue made a deal with Mallinckrodt but no one else. Most likely since Mallinckrodt is so big they came up with the best deal that gives Purdue the most Royalties. When you go to the table with several of the largest contracts in the business ie. Walmart,Sams Club, Costco and The VA system via the distributor McKesson you have a little leverage. Its my opinion that when all the old generic manufacturers see Covidiens (mallinckrodts owner) 4th quarter 2008 profits go way up they will probably try and make similar deals.
September 21, 2008 - 3:31pm
#9
o ok my mistake about
o ok my mistake about confusing what you said. I can definitely see all the competing companies put up offers and trying to make deals once they see the profit margin increase as you said. Also was there any reason why they only are allowed to make them through 2009? I just dont get why they would go through all the trouble of sueing the other companies and then lets covidiens/mallinkrodt produce them for a year unless they are getting a very large percent of the profits or royaltiesfrom mallinkrodt.
September 21, 2008 - 9:32pm
#10
Those Mallinckrodt Roxi 30s
Those Mallinckrodt Roxi 30s are really good. And Goats right the 512s have always been good. Even though the 512s are only 5mg, they are still good. I would pop two of those 512s and they would definitely do the trick.
Personally, I like Mallinckrodt. Everything I have tried from them has been top of the line...the roxis, the 512s, their Vics are good (M360's) : and their dones are good too.
I think that when these get out they will be pretty popular.
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September 23, 2008 - 8:45pm
#11
i wonder
I wonder if these new gen. oc'z are going to have the little bits of gel or wax in them to prevent abuse. Or if they are going to be like the ABG's, the only difference being the markings on the pills. Does anybody know about this?
September 23, 2008 - 9:15pm
#12
Xr
they are extended release
I am not a Dr. I just play one on tv.
September 23, 2008 - 10:35pm
#13
Since when did Oxycontin
Since when did Oxycontin ever have wax or gel in them? I thought that was just a myth put out to try to curb abuse.Does anyone have any solid evidence on this?
September 23, 2008 - 10:58pm
#14
proof
the proof is in the pudding. if you took a oxy and and it did not have a Xr quality you could overdose. no chew/break....yes?
I am not a Dr. I just play one on tv.
September 23, 2008 - 11:07pm
#15
The real oxy
The real O.C.'s dont have any of the wax (im not sure if it is wax or something else. but it has that type of texture.) in them. Some of the generics do though. Like the Teva gen.'s have it in them. If a person was to manipulate and abuse the med, it would 'gel' up. The company did this in an attemp to prevent abuse. The Endo generics had something in them that would burn really bad if you attempted to abuse in the same way. They even certain names for these type of generics (like a nickname or aka) on the street. i was just wondering if they are going to do something similar to the new generics in an attemp tp prevent manipulation and abuse. Or if they were going to be just like the real OC (how the ABG generics were essentially the same pill as the OC, just with a different imprint)? i hope this makes my ? a little easier to understand. P.S.....I do not recommen Manipulating and abusing O.C's or any medication as it can be very harmfull or fatal if done
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October 4, 2008 - 2:38am
#16
I doubt it. I have no
I doubt it. I have no doubt that the companies that used to make the generic OC's. But if I'm not mistaken I don't think they can. I remember reading something about it how legally they will never be able to make them again.
Plus, I think that if there was any chance at all that any of those pharmaceutical companies could make a deal with Purdue to produce generic OC's, they would have been breaking down Purdue's door to get a deal done. I don't think it will be any big surprise that Mallinckrodt's generic OC will be a huge (or pretty darn good) success on the market. Not only because of the popularity and effectiveness of OC, but also because they will be one of the very few (or maybe the only one? im not positive) generics on the market.
And since a lot of people in this country don't have prescription insurance and/or the money to pay the crazy prices of brand name Purdue Oxycontin, they are all going to go straight for the generic Malli's which are sure to be cheaper. IMO.
October 15, 2008 - 4:14am
#17
OpanOid wrote:
OpanOid wrote:
Quote:
...generics had something in them that would burn really bad if you attempted to abuse in the same way..was just wondering if they are going to do something similar to the new generics in an attempt to prevent manipulation and abuse...
A search here for "Aversion(r) Technology" showed no discussion, so I apologize if a re-post.
While not specifically dealing with Oxycontin, a recent study on the abuse liability of Acurox(tm) (oxycodone HCl and niacin) showed promising deterrents to abuse.
Acura Pharmaceuticals, Inc. and King Pharmaceuticals, Inc's Aversion(r) Technolog makes the tablet difficult to prepare for intraveaneous use, will cause irritation of the nasal passage when crushed and used nasally, and will cause body discomfort when excessive quantities are taken.
I found this info at globenewswire.com. Link:
http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=152026
October 20, 2008 - 10:08pm
#18
drugstore.com price
old oxycontin 80 mg for 120 tablets $1,453.00 that gives you an idea what i pay are the new ones going to be cheaper?
November 2, 2008 - 10:45am
#19
new oxycoton
i just filled my scrip.and was given the new oxy with the m on one side and 495 i have always had the itches on name brand. but nothing like now any body else having this problem.new Oxycontin
November 2, 2008 - 1:34pm
#20
Not sure if you meant M595
Not sure if you meant M595 or M594? Im currently taking the M594 pink 20mg tablets. I noticed some pretty extreme itchiness about an hour after taking the second dose of the day. If I only take one dose in the AM and use other meds in the evening instead of taking a second dose Im fine. However, I would like to take this time to say I give Mallinckrodt two thumbs up on there generic OxyContin!!!I would say that they only last about 8-10 hours and not the full 12, but I do have an extremely high metabolism so that could be why.
January 6, 2009 - 8:44pm
#21
Generic OC
The manufacturers of Oxycontin decided to allow this new generic under licensing and royalties payments over the other companies because their patent is only good for a couple more years and a lawsuit will take 2+ years and the decision would be to stop manufacturing it while the Purdue still has a patent. However it will be too long and costly and I bet they decided it would be better to collect royalities and license fees while they can. Also given all the legal issues it is really not a priority for Purdue. But to answer someones question the patent is for multiple claims which is not for each strength but the ability to control pain through controlled release medication, the active and more importantly the inactive ingredients that allow them to control the rate of delivery etc. I bet purdue is working towards a new oxycontin that is abuse proof which will be required by the FDA and that is where the next generation of revenue will come from. Obviously if they get a patent on this then the FDA will encourage its use and they will be the only manufacturer of this drug. They have tried unuccessfully to do this but the FDA concluded they didnt show that it was really abuse proof. However the FDA and the BNE are trying to limit the use of Oxycontin including having Doctors switch patients to other medications and now drug test to verify the patients are using the medication and not selling it. It is a matter of time before its sale is limited!!!
February 27, 2009 - 8:14pm
#22
These mallinkrodt have more
These mallinkrodt have more wax in them then any other oxy in history to date. I have a feeling the speed and amount that the mallinkrodt oxycontin releases will not perfectly mimic the dosage speed and amount of the purdue oxy. I know there will be a fair amount of complaints from people with the final outcome as people preferring the purdues.
February 28, 2009 - 10:27pm
#23
When taken orally as directed
When taken orally as directed I have not noticed any difference in the Mallinckrodt generic 20mg or the Purdue 20mg tablets. The other day I took one of each in the same day to see if I could tell a difference and I didnt feel any different. Both, however only last 10 hours tops in me. There also is no "wax" in the Mallinckrodt tablets. It is a powder that absorbs water/gels once it gets wet.
March 6, 2009 - 1:49pm
#24
roxys
they have roxicotin that is the generic oxys 15 30 ect...
March 11, 2009 - 12:18pm
#25
you mean Roxicodone?
you mean Roxicodone? Roxicontin is like not possible cuz the R mean rapid release, and contin means continuous release so itd be doing the opposite thing at the same time. I actually think they come in 5, 15, 20 and 30
March 14, 2009 - 8:21pm
#26
Purdue
I spoke to a Purdue rep, and he said that they gave Mallincrokt a 6 month window to manufacture generic oxycontin strengths to make some quick cash (Deal was for around 500mil) which would help pay the lawsuit they were hit with, with a possible extention to 1 year od manufacturing. I honestly don't see want sense it makes, since Purdue makes billions of dollars on oxycontin a year.
March 14, 2009 - 11:37pm
#27
I agree with goat, the MK 5mg
I agree with goat, the MK 5mg percs are excellent, I would use those if 1) I still had my old doc, and 2) they weren't such a pain in the arse to get; I can get my hydro filled more easily. I experience fewer negative side effects with oxy vs. hydro per a given amount of pain relief.
March 16, 2009 - 7:46am
#28
Roxicontin
There is no sch pill. Roxicodone is an immediate release formulation and Oxycontin as an extended release form. The R in roxicodoe does not mean Rapid. I am pretty sure it is because they are made by Roxane and that is where the Rox in Roxicodone comes from. I am not 100% sure though so someone please correct me if I am wrong.
March 15, 2009 - 2:14pm
#29
hydro
Hydro you are right
March 16, 2009 - 7:48am
#30
NJRx242
Thank you. Good to know.
March 26, 2009 - 11:54am
#31
Mal Generic Oxy 40mg
Greetings all. I get the 40mg generic OxyContin that is made by Mal, and I must say that it is hard to find, but it works just as well as the brand. I am just having problems trying to find that. My insurance company will only pay for generics, and it is hard to find them. ???$* the other day, I had to go to 6 different pharmacies to get Roxicodone 30mg. And then I could only find the brand name. Is there a shortage on narcotics? Seems that the large chains, (Walgreens, CVS, etc) can not get ahold of some of these larger dose pills. They have plenty of the Percocet 5/325. But not enough of stuff like the 15mg and up.
March 27, 2009 - 3:56pm
#32
gentlenmen an lovely ladies
you should try avinza, time released morphine sulfate, supposably new formulation of ms-contin, it comes in doses from 30 mgs to 120 mgs, got me off hyrocodone 10/650 x 4 daily an 1 perocet 10 for break thru, apap was making me fatigue an poisoning my system now i can get out an work some, to keep joints from seizing, also be aware that if your generic medication appears to be ineffective FDA reported to all major manufactors that ineffective an unapproved ingredeints were being used, kv pharmicetiucals pulled about 90 products, an ethex has some recalls, watson products also are getting complaints
April 30, 2009 - 10:33pm
#33
Shortage with Oxycontin and Roxicodone
To MiccoKoi,
You are not alone with having problems finding these meds! When these large national chains can't even get them you know something is going on. I have been told for the last 3 - 4 months there was a problem with manufacturing and that's the reason for the shortage but I can't understand why some of these mom and pop little pharmacies can get their hands on them but not the other big chain stores??? Anyway, if you can find the brand name and not the generic, your insurance should still cover it. The pharmacy has some way to convey that was the only med availale therefore they will pay. At least that was my experience when I found myself running all over the place to no avail. Go ahead and give it a try and I'll bet your insurance pays and if they don't.....then call them and ask what you're suppose to do if nobody is carrying the generic? Figure you really don't have much to lose except you'll have to continue the run around if they refuse to cover the cost.
To Woodstock2009,
I was forced to try the Avinza until my appeal came through with my new insurance company beause they didn't want to cover the cost of Oxycontin brand nor generic. Anyway, I tried them and didn't get half the relief I would normally get from oxy. However, it provided some relief and at least I didn't have to worry about going through withdrawls while I was waiting to win my appeal......which by the way, I did! I might also mention that I have been taking pain meds for about 6 years now and I have a pretty high tolernce so that might have something to do with it. I am taking 4 Oxycontin 80 mgs and 3-6 Roxicodone 30 mgs for breakthrough pain per day.
June 3, 2009 - 2:59am
#34
Not happy with these...
Just picked up new prescription last week ....40MG Oxycontin by Mallincrockdt...and after 5 years of Purdue I say with much enthusiasm....the Mallies are trash. Though the other products I've used have been acceptable......Rascus
June 3, 2009 - 2:46am
#35
Yes....
They do have either a gel or wax of some kind in them.....Rascus
July 13, 2009 - 6:55pm
#36
Mallincrokt
Their Oxycodone 15, 30s are great. If you use their oxycontins they do have a way of gelling up so they can not be abused. The Roxies or generics are real hard to find and same thing with the oc's if you want brand and you pay a lot, .25 per mg without insurance. $5 per 20 mg brand oc from the pharmacy, is that crazy or what?
July 13, 2009 - 8:27pm
#37
I've heard lots of people say
I've heard lots of people say the contract for the Mallinkrot generic OC ran out in March but a friend of mine filled his Rx this week and the pharmacy gave him the generic. Either they had a large backstock or somehow they are still manufacturing...anyone with thoughts on the matter?
July 13, 2009 - 9:58pm
#38
Its backstock
The manufacturing has been discontinued by Mallincrokt. Wholesalers are still selling whatever supply they have. Once that is gone, no more generic until it goes off patent, sometime within the next 2-4 years I think.
July 13, 2009 - 10:54pm
#39
I see. He is pretty upset
I see. He is pretty upset about it so I'll let him know it shouldn't happen again but to make sure to check with the pharmacist before hand.
July 25, 2009 - 12:14pm
#40
I will drive 100 miles to avoid Mallinckrodt
Anytime I ever go to the pharmacy and get a generic I always make sure that it is not the Mallins. I know by law they are supposed to have the same effective ingredients as a name brand substitute but my trial have always told me that it is not true. In other words their product to me is not an effective medication. Are there any tests done by the FDA to show that Mallin have exactly the same amount of active ingredients as the name brand. If so I would like to see the reports or what site they are posted on. Good luck to all of us in pain and hopefully something soon will give us our pain free lives back without taking part of it away in the process.
July 25, 2009 - 12:17pm
#41
I just posted as well! The
I just posted as well! The Mallins are definetley to me not near the strenght of a name brand dose as required by law and would like to see evidence that they are. I as well went back to "Watson". It still is not the name brand but feel it is just as good as it. Endo pharmaceuticals are also a good generic.
August 2, 2009 - 4:53pm
#42
Generic's
I was told by my P/M Dr. that generic's can be up to 40% less effective then the real thing...I don't know weather to believe it but I take generic Fentenyl Patches and they work ok...I take generic Valium..Diazapam...but now Dilaudid I must have name brand. The others do not work for me at all. I do pay a higher co-pay but it is well worth it. I know I am off subject kinda..cause u r talking about O.C's...anybody know if it is true about it being elgal to have generic's be that much less effective? I trust my Dr who I have been with for 8 years..when he told me that my jaw dropped...
August 8, 2009 - 4:32am
#43
From what I understand the
From what I understand the law is that name brands must be within 10% of the advertised dose. So "100mg" can be anywhere from 90mg-110mg. On the other hand generics can be within 20% so "100mg" could be anywhere from 80mg-120mg. The largest discrepancy allowed by this formula would be about 30%...keep in mind this is heresay and I don't know exactly what the law is...
no doubt in my mind that this will become a hot topic later on.
I am not a Dr. I just play one on tv.