January 30, 2009 - 9:16pm
#2
Back in the day
In 85 i was 18 and was in a motorcycle wreck where i fractured 4 vertebrae and compressed one close to 50 percent...i went home from the hospital with darvocet n-100s...they do make you feel ill and are weak.
January 30, 2009 - 9:37pm
#3
Hey Goat......In 1985 I was
Hey Goat......In 1985 I was 21! We are pretty close in age! 
KK
January 30, 2009 - 10:34pm
#4
we are
dinosaurs
.......i feel extinct at times
January 30, 2009 - 11:04pm
#5
I say it's about
I say it's about time.
Consumer groups have been trying for years to have Propoxyphene removed from the market.
Due to it's low efficacy and high overdose risk
In fact Ralph Nader and his consumer health group have been leading the way towards a total ban on the pain killer
January 31, 2009 - 12:23am
#6
Darvocet next Oxycontin
Watch how they weild this power to take things off the market especially a medicine... First Darvocet, next Oxycontin...... You'll see......
January 31, 2009 - 12:44am
#7
I agree with quahog, it's
I agree with quahog, it's about time. The opiate in it is useless, correct me if i'm wrong but it's potency is about 1/4th of codeine and it is PACKED with tylenol. Those giant pink pieces of junk should have stopped being prescribed a long time ago. In my opinion, tramadol has taken it's place nicely as far as "weak class" opiates go.
February 1, 2009 - 3:12am
#8
Oh, I agree! Take Darvon and
Oh, I agree! Take Darvon and Darvocet off the market. They are both useless in terms of pain relief. I once took so many Darvocets that my tongue turned black. It's bad stuff.
In India it's one of the most abused drugs on the streets.
February 1, 2009 - 7:38pm
#9
individual difference
It's an individual thing. Some people respond well to propoxyphene and it is long acting. Some people prefer it over hydrocodone or oxycodone! Because it is long acting, like methadone, it's responsible for a good many OD deaths.
February 1, 2009 - 8:20pm
#10
good
they are useless and give stomachache. they just give u those to get u out of there office. my opionion
February 1, 2009 - 9:22pm
#11
Darvon/Darvocet
In my opinion they are worthless also.
I've read all the articles about risks/benefits and it does sound like a dangerous drug especially IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.
If you follow directions, there might be some pain relieving action for mild pain - probably the same type of pain that a codeine/APAP pill could help alleviate - or a couple of aspirin (according to some official studies) or ibuprofen tabs. Or APAP. But then you have to consider the possibility of other side effects with aspirin or ibuprofen (gastro problems). Or acetaminophen (liver problems).
And there are people that are allergic to many opiates.
I work with two people who cannot take codeine or hydrocodone in any preparation, even cough syrups.
Since neither person is a chronic pain patient, morphine, oxycodone, oxymorpohone etc. never entered the discussions.
Both individuals seem to find some sort of relief with Darvon or Darvocet.
The mind is a powerful thing and both insist they are helped by Darvocet or Darvon when the pain is bad. So I guess it works for them.
If a ban is put in place, it needs to be done like the UK did - give a couple of years phase-out so that those who are allergic to opiates can find a tolerable alternative.
February 1, 2009 - 9:29pm
#12
Like i posted
In the 80's I took it for a broken back..my buddy had a wreck also...he had rods put in his back...all he had when he got home was darvocet n-100s...giant bottle's of orange pills/times have changed.
February 1, 2009 - 9:57pm
#13
Vicodin
Not positive but I think Vicodin was the first hydrocodone/APAP combo. And I think it was introduced in 1984. If that's correct, that would explain why nothing other than codeine/APAP or Darvon/Darvocet were commonly available earlier, and why you were prescribed Darvocet in the '80's'.
This sounds like a good research project for me and anyone else who is interested!
I checked the FDA and apparently brand name Vicodin is discontinued. That surprised me. I didn't see a date when it was discontinued.
February 1, 2009 - 10:14pm
#14
may 85
a month before graduation was the time. I was cut lots of slack at school/ only went back one day
February 2, 2009 - 12:02am
#15
Darvon update
Goat
Wanted to give thanks to you Goat regarding the information you provided to everyone on Darvon. I am taking that for my breakthrough pain in addition to Avinza. Goat, you seem to always be on top of things and I appreciate it very much.
Thanks again,
AnnHurts
February 2, 2009 - 12:46am
#16
thank you
I love to read and learn new things and share.
February 3, 2009 - 1:06pm
#17
I took darvocet after I
I took darvocet after I delivered my son, it was worthless and just gave me horrible headaches.
February 12, 2009 - 8:04pm
#18
Sorry to dig up an old
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but after I read Goat's article he posted in the Darvocet-N 100 thread, I had mixed emotions about this topic.
Like many people on here have stated, and as we all know, Darvon is actually pretty weak in terms of opioid medications. However, this drug is also one that is less frequently abused. So, with that thought in mind, I started thinking of things from the perspective of a doctor, and how doctors try their hardest not to let patients with acute injuries become dependent and addicted to their pain medicines
If Darvocet were to be pulled off of the market, this would be one less "lower" class opioid that doctors could prescribe. This also ties in with the Placebo Effect. If a doctor were to prescribe Ibuprofen 800mg, would the average person expect to get much relief? Probably not. However, when they hear the word "Darvocet", they immediately think of a painkiller, and likewise, expect (and to some extent, receive) dramatic pain relief. Of course, this is only true I'of the opiate naive patients.
Even though I feel that the drug should be pulled, I can definately see a reason to keep the drug on the market. It is a mild narcotic. It is not widely abused in comparison to Vicodin and Percocet. I guess I am thinking out loud, as this post seems to be very convoluted and verbose. However; I'm simply trying to play devil's advocate here, and possibly present a reason for not pulling the drug.
If this post was too erratic, I blame it on a horrible day at work. If someone else can understand where I am coming from, I would love to hear their thoughts.
Regards.
February 12, 2009 - 8:17pm
#19
gtrplayer
I sorta disagree on the abuse of darvocet...sure it's not as popular as hydrocodone/oxycodone but I do know that many people will take whatever they can get their hands on and i have met a few darvocet takers who take them by the handful...I also read that overseas it is really a problem...take care G.
March 2, 2009 - 4:01pm
#20
I have mixed feelings about
I have mixed feelings about pulling propoxyphen from the market. It is an alternative for people who get nauseated with codiene and hydrocodone. I guess tramadol has taken over that nitch of a milder narcotic analgesic associated with less nausea.
I also suspect that none of the people on the FDA's advisory committee or Sidney Wolff do not actually have to figure out how to treat patients. This might turn out to be as stupid as banning cheap CFC albuterol inhalers because of holes in the ozone and replacing it with HFA abluterol inhaler at five times the cost.
April 9, 2009 - 8:51pm
#21
It works wonderfully for me
I am allergic to all codeine (even in cough syrup) based painkillers as well as morphine and Dilaudid. The only oral meds I can take are Demerol and Darvocet. It is frightening to only have two options as I have had massive amount of knee surgery. To only have one option for pain meds would be horrible. Tramadol gives me insomnia and makes me nauseous.
Yeah, I just read about that. I never liked that med. It always made me so sick and never helped. My Dr said it is usually used in elderly patients. Although, I do feel bad for the people who take it and it helps them. I guess they will have to switch to Vicodin 5/500 maybe?
KK