July 14, 2008 - 9:05am
I'm a forensic drug chemist, and I have a real puzzler.
Three unmarked, clear capsules with a cloudy white liquid in them. The capsules are unususal in that they appear to be glued shut, like some pharmaceutical caps (most of the homemade ones I have come across are not...though this doesn't mean that someone hasn't done it). The substance inside contains caffeine, a beakdown of sulindac, piperine and ethisterone (only the caffeine can be confirmed at this time).
I have two questions:
1: Is it possible for some pharmaceutical capsules to depigment? (these are kind of old)
2: Are any of you familiar with a similar concoction, that might point me in the right direction to identify the questionable components?
Thanks.
July 14, 2008 - 10:59am
#2
Isn't piperine an akaloid
Isn't piperine an akaloid from the pepper plant? Why would it be in a pharmaceutical? It is in the capsule so it isn't for flavor. I have never heard of a standard capsule holding a liquid or semi liquid that isn't a special gel capsule.
July 14, 2008 - 11:26am
#3
I was just shooting in the
I was just shooting in the dark, posting here.
I'm 99% sure it's not pharmaceutical, but I have been working on it off and on for two months.
You're right about the piperine. I'm not absolutely sure that's what it is...that's just the computer's best guess. There are some ions that don't match, and we dont' exactly keep a piperine standard around to compare to.
The compound of inetrest is the one that is matching up as ehtisterone...again not a perfect match. It's most proabbly another type of steroid though...I have to figure out if it's a controlled steroid or not.
I haven't been able to come up wiht an extraction that can isiolate it to try to get an IR, so GC/MS is all I have to work with.
July 14, 2008 - 12:14pm
#4
oily capsules
Did your capsules look like this?
oily capsules: Oily capsules
July 14, 2008 - 12:32pm
#5
yes, they do!
yes, they do!
July 14, 2008 - 12:44pm
#6
Lipo 6
I had these capsules a few months back and also had a hard time determining the contents. Long story short, take a look at this website: www.nutrex.com/lipo6
If you found some caffeine (amongst several other peaks of mysterious library hits) in your capsules chances are this is what you are dealing with - a diet supplement.
July 14, 2008 - 12:48pm
#7
You rock!Thanks!
You rock!
Thanks!
July 14, 2008 - 1:05pm
#8
No prob
See, who needs pharmacists?
Just Kidding...JUST kidding!
July 14, 2008 - 1:38pm
#9
hehe
It even has the pepper extract in it.
I still consider myself fairly inexperienced...how did you make the connection?
I feel like I should bow down before you or something LOL.
3: Have you ever heard of a pharmaceutical capsule containing a liquid? (It's not like a normal liquicap, and it also might explain the glue).