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has anybody ever seen 10 mg diazepam without a line down the middle to break them in half?

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I have some pills that supposedly are 10 mg diazepams, but there are no markings on them, and most unusual, no line down the middle to break them in half. This makes me wonder if it another dosage, like 5mg, or something else entirely.

They are from the company Terapia in Romania (eastern europe), which might mean thattheir pills are as generic as they come, which could explain the lack of any score.

 Has anyone ever seen diazepam pills without any imprints whatsoever?

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Thanks!

 

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Terapia Diazepam

Hi wingsofwax,

I notice you asked the same question several weeks ago and no one answered:

http://www.pharmer.org/node/11576

It's really impossible to identify an unmarked tablet without lab testing. And you're right - diazepam is usually scored.

We have a few images of foreign diazepam that don't have imprints but I think they are all scored. You might want to check them out:

Foreign Diazepam Images

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Here's a better link:

http://www.pharmer.org/images/foreign?page=8

Start with that page and look at the two following pages also.  And notice that the Bensedin made in Serbia has no score and no marks.


I'm not a pharmacist or a medical doctor. This message is not medical advice nor is it an offer to provide medical advice. All drug identifications should be validated by a licensed MD or pharmacist.
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No

Have not seen what you are talking about. Mine are blue, scored and has a 10 on it.

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Diazepam

Yes, I actually looked through your gallery and saw the pictures of the Serbian diazepam, so I guess it is very possible that these pills are the real deal, since they do come from the same area.

 Thanks for the help.

 

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Tiedyed65, you do not say what brand or, if generic, manufacturer makes the blue, scored diazepam you are talking about. There are literally HUNDREDS of companies worldwide who make diazepam tablets of 10mg strength. Although most 10mg tablets ARE blue, there is a green one (Mylan, NOT recommded!) and a brownish one (Lederle), as well as the well-known Fabop FABOTRANIL (this too is a very good brand) from Argentina which is a tan/buff colour. I know of at least five that are white with no markings whatsoever, and many more white 10mg diaz with various markings, best-known probably being the Roche-licenced (They get in everywhere) VALIUM by Nicholas Piramal.

Kirby, here follows a couple of brands and generics which are NOT scored at all.

Galenika's BENSEDIN is probably the best-known. There are images on the site. Bensedin is a very high-quality diazepam and is the largest-selling Serbian brand by a long way.

TERAPIA/ROCHE generic (licenced) are Romanian and are legendary; or were before Roche poked their nose in. These two fit the description and are both excellent.

There is as well a generic, made also in Serbia by Panfarma, which are absolutely awful. They can be found offered for sale at ridiculously low prices. Unfortunately they feel more like about 5 - 6mg. If that! - despite box and blister stating clearly that they are 10mg diazepam.

I have no hesitation in recommending Bensedin and Terapia as top-class diazepam. Watch out for scammers though; it has been known for some unscrupulous vendors who send loose tablets to deliver Panfarma's dreadful weak tablets when you have ordered Bensedin. You can tell the difference though; Panfarma are a lot softer, and do not have the shinier coating of Bensedin. Otherwise they look almost identical, there being only a difference of around a millimetre in diameter between the two.

I have no idea where you heard that there are no unmarked white diazepam tablets. These three are just the best-known and most frequently encountered, and, as I said, Bensedin and Terapia are excellent quality. I use both, and consider them better than the average Roche VALIUM brand. IMO, only the (blue) APAURIN, by the Slovenian company Krka-EU, are better than Bensedin.

"NEVER ingest anything unless you are 100% sure what it is."

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Thanks

That was a very helpful reply, Gaucho!

 These pills are most likely what I was told they were, since they do have a glossy coating, and as you say, Terapias diazepam are unscored. 

Thank for the help!

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I have had two sorts. One was white, round and rounded top and bottom. No markings what so ever from serbia. They were very strong, very nice .

I got some more from croatia supposed to be by terapia. They were Round, scored one side and looked better made. No markings again. They were normal 10 mg diazepam.

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I second that.

I second that.

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Galenika's BENSEDIN is

Galenika's BENSEDIN is probably the best-known. There are images on the site. Bensedin is a very high-quality diazepam and is the largest-selling Serbian brand by a long way. Quote.

 

These  get and are very good quality.

There are photo's on here of them. They are round, no markings and rounded top and bottom. Without blister pack they are very hard to recognise. Could be mints if you didn't know.

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Diazepam
Generic Name: Diazepam (diazepamum)
Strength: 10 mg
Manufacturer: Galenica, Serbia
Trade Name: Bensedin (Valium)
Type: Antianxiety
Comment: No imprint, no scoreline, just a white pill that looks like it was dextrose. Hard to identify if not blistered.

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Can you get scored terapia?

Can you get scored terapia? White round, no markings, but score line down them. Not the same as bensedin. Flatish top and bottom

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If i could

I would not...I like my meds storebought and made in the U.S.

Also this site is not a "hook-up" drug board..And believe me I have been asked many times for drugs even though I have the mod icon...Sealed take care.

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A picture this time...

This is the best I could do. Pretty bad, I know.

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I think

Hey Goat,

Addict180 was merely asking for a photo from the poster of the bensedine which was you, and not an actual hook up.  I think you just missunderstood the question.

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5mg Apaurin

Can some one please please tell me what 5mg apaurin diazepam look like?I have some and they are like nothing i have ever seen!Please someone put my mind to rest!Not the 10mg apaurins the 5mg ones,anyone?

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If you got them from a

If you got them from a pharmacy there should be no concern about their authenticity....if you acquired them illegitimately I would suggest finding another place to check out your pills. Most posters on this site are pretty bitter about illegal prescription drug accusation.

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Yeah...

and I'm one of em'. This whole thread is an "online pharmacy" NO PRESCRIPTION NEEDED thread. Unless, of course, the poster is Serbian, and bought the pills from the local chemist...uh huh

P.S. Andy, I'll put your mind at ease, throw the illegal pills out, and then you won't have to worry about possibly poisoning yourself in addition to potential legal consequences.

 

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Calm Down, Guys

We are here to help anyone identify his pill.  We don't care if the poster is foreign or the pill is foreign.  All we want to do is identify the substance, if possible, so no one is hurt.

And as a bonus, we get to learn about foreign meds.  I find that aspect fascinating.

Also, please be advised that a substance that is controlled in the US might not be controlled in another country.  APAP/codeine tablets are one example.

Currently many of our RX drugs are freely available without a prescription in most countries.

If anyone finds the pill ID questions offensive, ignore them.Surprised

It's not necessary to chastise the poster about ordering from an illegal online pharmacy.  It's entirely possible the poster is Serbian and is allowed by law to buy a benzo from any local pharmacy.

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Kirby

I respect your dedication to the site as much as anyone, but this is rather blatant. Nowhere in my post did I state I cared about the nationality of the poster. I am well aware of the variance in laws pertaining to purchasing medication in countries other than the United States.

All of this aside, it is impossible to positively identify a substance using imprints/ images alone. Uness the pills are phsyically tested using GC-MS, all we can do is say, "that's what the pill is supposed to look like." How would it play out if a poster I.D.'d a pill based on a photo, and the pill turned out to be a counterfeit containing some type of poison? Posters need to be constantly reminded that this site is only an aid to "identification." I don't find the pill I.D. questions offensive, I find them bordering on dangerous. I have never once thought that the medicine I purchased (legally) might be something else. Perhaps I am confused. Under what circumstances do individuals need pills identified? (Aside from the mother who found pills in son's pocket, etc.)

One more thing, I don't know whether or not you deal with a chronic painful condition yourself Kirby, but these illegal imports are just another log on the fire that the DEA has burning under the feet of those with chronic pain. Please understand the source of some of the frustration...

Again, thank you for contributing to such a great site.

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Your point is taken Kirby, it

Your point is taken Kirby, it certainly could be a legitimate and helpful thread.

However the cynic in me doubts it. I even doubt the threads that say "concerned mother finds pill in son's room". I've read and heard people say that if you don't know what a pill is you should call poision control and just tell them you found the pill in your kid's room or something.

Despite that, the pill idenitification service is valuable to the world and we can't really keep people from misuing it even though we would like to..

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Pill ID

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All of this aside, it is impossible to positively identify a substance using imprints/ images alone. Uness the pills are phsyically tested using GC-MS, all we can do is say, "that's what the pill is supposed to look like."

 

You are absolutely correct.  That's all we can do.  That's all Poison Control can do.  That's all a pharmacist can do.  That's all law enforcement can do - identify the pills by imprint.  US meds (OTC, RX and homepathic) imprints are required by law so that doctors, pharmacists, nurses, EMTs etc. will know what a certain substance is when they need to make an immediate life-or-death decision.

In the US the imprint usually suffices for ID purposes.  The professionals don't bother testing unless there is a valid reason for it.  It's expensive and usually not necessary unless there is possibly criminal behavior involved.

My point is if we can help someone identify a pill, that's good, whether the pill or poster is domestic or foreign.  And many of us are much more skilled at identifying foreign imprints than any US  "professional" such as Poison Control.

We are not aiding the DEA in its fruitless War on Drugs that's been waging for 40 years.

The media and DEA will always find excuses for punishing successful pain treatments for legitimate, responsible patients because the  people who abuse meds and other substances need 'protection' against the cruel, mean world.YellFrown

So we punish the successful (good doctors and responsible patients) and reward the people who can't OR WON'T cope with life.  Apparently it's easier to let the nanny state take care of your every need.

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Terapia Ranbaxy Romania

White unmarked pill with a single score line. Tiny almost un-noticeable bevel with sharp defined edges.

Very good quality Diazepam.

 

 

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Apaurin 5mg Krka

These are viscious green in colour, round with pronounced bevel, no sharp or defined edges and sweet to taste.

They look almost like smarties and in my opion you'd be better off with smarties as they are not good. Maybe a bad batch but 10mg Apuarins have never failed me yet.