am i crazy?

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My history is a long one to say the least. I have had several addictions and would say that I have an "addictive personality". My most recent struggle though is odd. I was seeing a pyshciatrist for nervous tension and anxiety. I explained to him that I had been experiencing shaking when I wake up of a morning. He prescribed me librium which without reading or researching, I didn't know that you could develop a dependency to it as well. I assume this doctor didn't believe me when I told him I was clean from drugs (narcotics) and that I drank but was not an alcoholic. A close friend told me that she was prescribed librium to stop drinking once in a rehab facility. I guess my question is why am I shaking is it withdrawal or maybe a health problem? I am currently not taking the librium so that is why I think maybe it is withdrawal from it. So am I crazy? I was better off before I walked in his office.....even dealing with struggles from addictions I already had. If anyone has experienced this shaking or can give me any advice please. My husband is deployed and I am totally responsible for our 2 children. I have no family support and just want some advice or maybe just someone who can relate. The shaking comes from nowhere and mostly affects me in the morning when I first wake. The librium did help when I was taking it but I am currently out and really don't want to take anyhting that I can develop or am already dependant upon. I am currently clean and drink to try and cope with my nervous anxiety which I don't like cause like I said I don't know if substituting one thing for another is a solution. Any help or suggestions are welcome and can someone please confirm what the drug librium is actually used for.





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well the doctor patient responsiblity is this.

Remember that patients have a responsibility for their care as well. Its not just the doctor. Its you and the doctor so its up to you to be honest and work with him. If you were fine before walking into his office then you will be fine as you walk out if you take action and responsibility as a patient. I would see a doctor about the shaking though. Sounds serious. 



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Are you a doctor?  I think that a psychiatrist would take a person seriously and should have reffered me to a MD instead of giving me something that I have found is clearly used for someone going through withdrawal.  By the way, the pshyciatrist we are talkin about is no longer practicing at the facility were I was treated.  I would say that there is probably a good reason for that!  I was honest with him that is the whole problem. He obviously didn't believe me and gave me librium because he thought that I was going thru withdrawal. In addition to that I have two responsibilities in this world and they are under the age of eighteen.  Thanks for your opinion but no thanks.     

 

rmywfV69




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I doubt anyone in here(and

I doubt anyone in here(and there is someone who claims to be an MD) has the ability to answer those question for you. I agree that I would see an MD for the shaking,it could be one of many different things. It seems that the shrink might have thought you were having difficulty with something to do with your mental state, obviously with your partner being deployed. This is absolutley an opinion. I wish you the best and I really hope everything turns out good for you and your partner who is a very special person,heroic too



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librium

like the others said, id see a dr for the shaking, but try taking the libs again first, as it is a weak benzodiazepine, and may help with your shaking, and anxiety.  the shaking could be the beginning of a panic attack, who knows.  i was in a detox for opiates, and in addition to methadone, the weak amount they gave us, they also gave us librium for bedtime, so we could sleep, and not kick and toss and turn all nite.  if the libs dont help, see a dr soon.



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librium

Just wanted to say thank you for your post.  I have very recently talked with an elder friend of mine who said the same thing as you did that it was panic attacks.  In any case I don't think that librium is a solution. The reason being is because the dosage increase and being able to develop a dependancy to them.  She told me to try Zanex which I have and I think that or Valium might be more helpful.  Are you familar with these two and are they dependant?  Im going to a regular MD tomorrow just for an overall checkup! Thanks again for your help.

rmywfV69




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RMYWFV69

  its no problem, i hope i helped u a little.  i was going thru the same thing with the panic attacks, after I quit using opiates and went on the methadone..ok let me rephrase that,  I quit using illegal opiates.  but then i began having panic/anxiety attacks, which began with shakiness, followed by the feeling like something was wrong with me and i was gonna die.   it was also brought on by my life situation right now, which in a nutshell is, im out of work, where i got hurt, and on workmans comp, who is messing with me big time.  the only good thing is i do have a weekly income that is about what i was making at work as an assistant meat manager/meatcutter.

  Anyways i was supposed to be enrolled in a pain mgmt program, in which one of the 3 parts was seeing a psychiatrist.  so i had to get evaluated by all 3 parts, and the shrink after hearing all about my anxiety and depression, put me on klonopin, 1mg in the morning, and 1 in the evening, because supposedly the thing about those is that they are supposed to last 12 hours, they take a little longer to kick in, but last a lot longer than say xanax.  so between your kids and your husband doing what hes doing (my sincerest regards to him and what he is doing for all of us.  I am VERY respectful of anyone in the military, i know a LOT of people take it for granted, and when they say they support our troops, i dont think any of them or very few grasp the importance and severity of what these soldiers do from day to day)   anyways, i would recommend klonopin, cause u can take the least amount and have the longest relief, that is once u find a dose that works for u.  if u take them as prescribed and dont abuse them, you shouldnt experience any withdrawals if you lose them or whatever the case may be.  mentally u might, but u would have to be taking a lot to experience physical sickness.  They worked wonders for me, i did a complete 180.  its nice to be able to deal with stuff without your mind racing, and just kinda take it as it comes.  thats how they work for me anyways.  but everybodys different.  So id try those for your stress and anxiety.  which i know first hand what u are dealing with as an army wife....im a man, not an army wife, but my brother in law who is 21 went to basic then advanced to become a tanker in the army, and he got married in between his basic/tank school, and his deployment.  hes in Korea not iraq, but it doesnt matter where they are they are still fighting for us, which i admire the balls these guys have so much.   So ill let u go now, sorry for the long message.  I wish you and your husband the best of luck, and hope he returns to you soon, safe and sound.    




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I have been prescribed

I have been prescribed valium for years I only take them when I feel a panic attack coming on, because they can be addictive that is for sure. A prescription might last me months and months and it did help with me regarding the panic attacks,as have been posted there are a number of benzo's for panick attacks. I wish you the best, it has to be very stressful with a partner being deplyoed or redeployed. I wish you the best. My brother's boy just ended his 4 yr Marine obligation and rarely talks about Iraq and the whole family never brings it up.It must be very hard because I remember my niece being on pins and needles for the whole 4 yrs. i am sure everything will be turn out fine.Cool



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am i crazy

Thank you for your opinion and of course the compliment about my husband.  I agree I think a regular MD instead of a psychiatrist might help. It has been ongoing so I doubt that is withdrawal from librium. Thanks for your opinion.  

 

 

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Xanax Valium and Librium are

Xanax Valium and Librium are all in the same class of drugs. They are benzodiazepines and yes can all be addictive.



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Just to Clarify...

Want to echo my appreciation for your husband's service (& how BLESSED you must feel that he's NOT in Iraq).

As for the "shrink" Rxing Librium? There are MANY reasons for prescribing different meds. He may NOT have scripted you for "withdrawal" symptoms.

Many drugs, tho' not ORIGINALLY intended for a particular disease/affliction, may afterwards be found effective for entirely DIFFERENT reasons. Take methotrexate, for example. Originally for CANCER, has since been found useful for rheumatoid arthritis. "Effexor," an anti-anxiety drug, is often Rxd for sleep, etc.  (Not saying your shrink IS a "good" guy, but may not be as callous/shallow as first thought.)

As far as your "shaking" goes? Think your idea of seeing a GP to be EXcellent but, as others have (previously) written it "sounds serious," want to ease any add'l anxiety the posts here, may have caused. It may be as innocuous as your body being used to a cup of COFFEE in the mornings and your going w/out. (But MY "guess" <and that's ALL it is> is, considering all the add'l STRESS you're under, while it MAY be "anxiety attacks," it may just be a simple case of (what our grandparents used to call) "nerves."

**ALL Benzodiazepenes, as stated previously, are HIGHLY addictive. Mothers of the WWII generatilon (who gave birth to the Boomers), had SERIOUS addiction probs w/ valium as well as diet pills, et al.

REMEMBER: A "GOOD" doctor should be a PARTNER in your care. No longer do (we) patients consider them to be the "Doctor Gods" they once were.

Please keep us posted as to what you find out... (And hope this helped!)

 




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Sorry you took it the wrong way.

I was saying that as a patient WE have responsibilities to be honest with the doctor. If you are, walk out the door from that doctor with your head high because you did the right thing thats all. You don't have to be a doctor to know that. And you also said that you assumed the doctor thought you had a problem. What I am saying is that we as patients should be responsible with our treatments, meaning that we should stand up for ourselves whenever necessary and go and see another doctor if possible and take medicines which help us. I am sure that you weren't the only one who had a problem with this doctor since you said he was fired out of practicing but either way, I am here to help with replies and what I have learned being a patient and in medicine. Sorry you took it the wrong way. The way I feel is being responsible for yourself is the same as being responsible for your kids.

 

Take Care!!




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So how did it go with the

So how did it go with the doc, V69? 

I'm a social worker, not a medical professional. All comments and thoughts are simply my opinion and experience.




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morning shakiness

I am new to this list, and have no medical training of any sort but for what its worth, i sometimes get the shakes when my blood sugar is very low.  i have not be diagnosed with low blood sugar but i can always tell when its low because of the shakiness.  if i eat something i'll stay shaky for a little while until i level off and then i am fine.  are you sure that you are eating a good diet - maybe with the stress of your husband gone, and taking care of the kids on your own, you are not taking care of yourself.  take care of yourself Kiss



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am i crazy

Thank you very much for your response. I have very recently found out that you are very much right. I got a call after seeing a MD for a physical who said that my blood sugar was abnormal and have went back in for more testing.  Thank you again and will keep everyone that is concerned posted.  FYI  i am no longer on any type of nerve medications and having been doing rather well considering my situation.

 

 

rmywfV69




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am i crazy

i just wanted to thank everyone who showed concern and to let you know.... turns out im not.  i have recently recieved results from a physical, stating that i have abnormal suger levels.  i am following up with my GP and now think i went in the wrong direction from the beginning of all this shaking.  i am currently not taking any medications for anxiety or depression and seem to be coping fine and have been for some time.  again i just want to thank everyone for their support and thoughfulness.  you helped someone who so needed it

 

rmywfV69




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Reply to V69

I used to have shakes in the morning about the time the alcohol was wearing off.They were so bad my hands would not function, thats when I discovered benzos.Withdrawl from alcohol could be one of many possibilities, good luck.