Watson's Round Yellow - Advertised as Codeine 60mg

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I've never seen this pill before - as the subject states - Watson's Round Yellow - Advertised as Codeine 60mg.  I'll be posting an image soon.  Can anyone verify this?

Thank you!





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Here's the pic

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Are these supposedly US

Are these supposedly US tablets, or are they foreign?



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Correction - Wilson's

I would be very surprised if they were from the US - but that's all I can guess.

 

Also, the title should read Wilson's not Watson's.  Sorry about that!




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several have used Wilson's

several have used Wilson's label.  These may be from Wilson's Pharmaceuticals, Islamabad, Pakistan



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Tablet Imprinted Wilsons

Thanks for the image. It's an interesting tablet. In fact the background on the imprint side closely resembles a Canadian Tylenol #4 with Codeine:

Submitted by Aesthir on November 9, 2005 - 4:35pm.

Codeine - McNeil 4

Image courtesy of Aesthir

 

One other poster asked about this imprint and thought it was codeine. And you think it's codeine, so it very well could be some type of combo product containing codeine.

Here is the other thread:

http://www.pharmer.org/node/8383

No one replied to the previous question apparently because no one has access to references covering Pakistani meds.Frown

sjd0103, please measure the tablet for us. Millimeters are best. But if you don't have a ruler handy, then compare the tablet to a penny, nickel or dime and give us an approximate size. Thanks.Smile


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Wilson's cream w/yellow specks

It measures 12mm across and 4.5mm deep.
It feels like codeine, but unsure if pure.Wilson's Wilson's



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Wilson's Imprint

Thank you very much, cohnnyjash, for the closeup image and especially for the measurements.Smile

Okay, based on the measurements the tablet is probably not pure codeine. The size is the same size as most US round tablets containing 500 mg acetaminophen - see these images:

http://www.pharmer.org/node/11290

http://www.pharmer.org/node/2309

http://www.pharmer.org/node/8354

And the diameter is the same as two US generic Tylenol with Codeine tablets. See these images:

http://www.pharmer.org/node/7583

http://www.pharmer.org/node/7336

 

So the Wilson's tablet, if it actually does contain codeine, has another ingredient - probably APAP.

I've only seen one pure codeine tablet (30 mg) and it was tiny - about the same size as Dulcolax (5 mm diameter). I'm guessing 60 mg pure codeine is probably a little larger, maybe 6 or 7 mm.

I guess it's possible the tab is extended-release codeine or codeine that's effervescent (like Alka Seltzer), and these would probably be bigger than plain codeine. But you could probably tell by the texture if it's those types of tablets.


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Wilson's Imprint

I dissolved some tablets in water (nothing effervescent happened) and chilled the water right down. Almost all of it dissolved entirely, although when the solution was filtered a small amount of some filler of sorts remained (though noticeably less than you would get subjecting a typical cocodamol tablet to the same procedure). The solution was clear with a slightly yellow colour.    




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Wilson's Imprint

Thanks, cohnnyjash.

I guess we're back to square one with this pill ID. If you say the tablet doesn't leave much residue, then apparently it doesn't contain APAP.

Maybe someone with a chemical background can help us out here. What other drugs are water soluble and likely to be combined with codeine? Carisoprodol, aspirin, diclofenac and ibuprofen are about the only drugs I can think of that are common all over the world and sometimes combined with codeine, but there are probably others.  And I have no idea about solubility of these meds.Surprised

And one other important question - is there any significant size difference between codeine sulfate and codeine phosphate? The tiny pill I mentioned earlier is codeine phosphate.


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Wilson's Imprint

Thanks for your considered opinion, Kirby. In my view I don't think these tablets contain APAP (paracetamol), aspirin, ibuprofen, nor carisoprodol (I'm sure I would have felt that), or seemingly any other non-soluble filler.

I do think they contain codeine, but I wouldn't say as much as 60mg, maybe 30mg (if that).

I agree, I've always heard that pure codeine comes in small tablets, and I'm afraid I don't know of any visible differences regarding sulfate or phosphate.   



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wilson's yellow pill

I have seen them in blister packs going by the name Codogesic. The package says that each tablet consists of 15 mg of Codeine and 500 mg of Acetaminophen and that it was manufactured in Pakistan.

 

Hope this helps!




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Wow thanks for the ID...a

Wow thanks for the ID...a picture of the blister packs would help..... From what i read it appears there is tylenol in the pill and i never heard of wilsons so chances are it is a foreign codeine/apap pill.

Here is a link to a pakistani website talking about the codogesic made by wilson that says they do make the 15/500 pill although there isnt a picture.

http://www.pakmedinet.com/trade.php?id=5402