Problematic Behavior

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I have been with chronic pain for about 8 months now, and as of late i'm noticing that i can't tell if the meds are helping me any more or if my pain went away or anything. I got my chronic head pain after a surgery on my jaw, the pain however is in a seemingly unrelated area, the back of my head. i've had chronic migraines since i was 14 and thought the trauma triggered a worsened form of that condition to an everyday thing. Anyways, i have pain, a lot of it and all the time, and its located in and on my head to make matters worse. As i said, i know i've gotten use to having the pain, and can "bear it" to a greater degree, does this mean i don't need as much pain medicine anymore, i know this is a common problem and don't want to under/overmedicate or have a false sense of 'normalcy'/'security' and reduce the dose to find it problematic. I take 60 mg of Oxycontin 3 times daily and anywhere from 2-8 30 mg IR oxycodone a day. It's the only effective, and i fight the addictive nature of this type. It is very difficult for me right now to stop, obviously, but desperately want to so i can get away from this addictive drug, i am physically dependent, obviously as well, however i catch signs of addictive behavior showing themselves within me and my thinking become skewed when taking these pills. I'm a psychologist and behavioral geneticist (worked with psychopharmacology too) so i am very aware of myself. There are two parts to this post, am i still having pain and/or getting use to this routine and what to do, as well as what should i do about the growing "need" i feel toward taking my doses and taking the ir meds frivolously when pain hits. am i making excuses during the painful times or creating the painful situations (stress etc) bigger than they are to justify taking my meds? i feel like i do this sometimes, other times its definitely real bad. except for the spikes of pain my general life feels pain free and nostalgic of the pre-pain days.

As it should be easy to see from my post i'm confused internally, both mentally and physically. does everyone go through this at the beginning, should i change my medication to get away from oxycodone's highly addictive nature? most others give me headaches and do nothing, but there are 2 or 3 i haven't tried yet, hydromorphone, morphine (tried avinza and lowdose ms contin, not kadian or the other) and methadone.

please help,





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I feel I sound like a broken

I feel I sound like a broken record when I keep asking people if they have tried treatments other than narcotics, narcotics, and more narcotics.  Are you being treated for migraines?  Are you on Topamax, Depakote, Elavil, Calcium channel blockers, Beta-blockers or any other preventive medications for migraines?  Have you tried occipital nerve blocks?  Are you under the care of a neurologist?  Have you consulted with a neurologist with a special interest in headaches?

I would also recommend talking to a psychiatrist who is certified in addiction medicine regarding how you feel about the narcotics you are taking.




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-I have currently tried

-I have currently tried everything prior to narcotics, this was the last resort, i stayed healthy, worked out, acupuncture, nerve blocks etc. Narcotics are the only ones with long lasting relief, so much as to be able to work, at a managable level. I just wanted off completely and pill free asap, but its not a perfect world so i have to do this stuff. i have pain in my head which is chronic, but this feels like no migraine i've ever had, a different type of hurt, and the narcs are all thats helping, i think muscle relaxers in low doses assist as well, but non of the therapies worked, and now its a habit to take narcs every day after all the time thats passed. how often should one reduce mg dosage by to ween off anywhere from 180-320, avg 250 a day??

Paradyme

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When people say they have

When people say they have tried everything, I usually find that they have barely scratched the surface of available therapies, tried the medications at dosages that were too low, or tried them for too short a period of time.  I asked about several specific medications and about occipital nerve blocks.  Have you tried any of the treatements I asked about?  Have you spoken with a psychologist, especially one who is interested in treating chronic pain patients, or a neurologist, especially on who specializes in headaches? 

There are many treatments that are used along with narcotics, not just in place of narcotics, that increase the efficacy of narcotics and allow people to function on lower doses of narcotics.