What should i be perscribed.

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Ok i seen your site maybe you can help. To this day i take physical theropy 3-4 times a week 2 days in water 2 days ultrasound and electro shock theropy. I have dejenerate joint disease, spinal stenosis, shurmanns disease, ostrealcondrosis, 2-3 bulged disc 1 herniation with compressed L4 nerve and L4-L5 foreman degration possible collapse. I usually take 3 vicoden 5/500s and it doesnt do anything for the pain i use to be on oxycodone 5/325s but not since i went to my family doc. I have been to 3 pain clinics its been about 8 month now with the pain. I am 20 and cant work with no income, insurance runs out in 7 days what SHOULD i be perscribed, what should i tell me doctor to get him to fully understand it. Everytime i get a perscription its no refills EVER. I am trustworthy my parents go with me every appointment and talk to the doc as well. No family history or drugs all good.




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pain

sorry to hear about your pain man, and at 20?  i got hurt at work at 25, my neck DDD, and 2 herniated discs tthat are hitting nerves, etc..  but anyways they cant give you refills on schedule II narcotics like percocets, they can on the vicodin coz its schedule III, but the II's they have to give u a new script every time.  as for what u should be rxd, it depends on your pain level.  from what u said id think like atleast a 7.5 perc or even a 10.  but thats all up to your dr, and what u tell him.



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Man o man

You know what the problem is too? The cost of those types of medicine since you wont have insurance. Its a scary situation. Oxycontin by far is hugely expensive and so is opana. See if you could GO around to pharmacies and ask for prices. Do not let them write your date of birth on them or anything like that. And the reason why I capitalize GO is because most places wont give you the prices over the phone. I guess to prevent theft but who knows. you should always go to a PAIN MANAGEMENT clinic with a doctor who has a certification as an anesthesiologist. 



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tell ur doc

---chuck---you need a higher dose,5 mg is barely enough for a sprain,constant back pain needs higher dose,period



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I also have to agree that

I also have to agree that being 20 and having chronic or severe pain has to be a bummer. What I did and IMO what most patients should do is get your hands on everything you can read about chronic or severe pain This might show your doctor how dedicated you are to try and understand all aspects of this type pain and might very well impress him too. Now IMO your age might make a difference on what type medication he will prescribe. After a bit if some type of narcotic is not helping you I would  tell him and then ask him/her what other type of med's would help. I myself went through  several different types of physical therapy so I know the pain you may be having but at your age my opinon is that you might get through it faster than some,of course it depends on several things  Best of luck to ya



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chuck44

"5 mg is barely enough for a sprain".  A sprain hurts for worse than a break.  There are 3 types of sprain acute, subacute, and chronic.  Subacute and chronic sprains have tendoan and or ligament damage and can cause very bad pain anywhere from 4 to 24 months.



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"a sprain hurts worse than a

"a sprain hurts worse than a break"??????  First of all, this is completely an opinion on the subjective feeling of pain, and second, are you serious?  I have sprained my ankle and I have broken my ankle and I am pretty sure the break hurt a lot more and for a much longer period of time.

Check with a licensed MD before you take any suggestions!




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break and sprain

I guess it depends on how bad the break is and how bad the sprain is.  I googled sprains and that is the research I got.  iwould guess if the sprain badly damages your ligaments or tendons that it could hurt worse than a break.  I have had both and the mri showed a subacute/chronic sprain with ligament damage ang it hurt worse than breaking my knee.



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re: opana

what is opana can somebody please tell me?



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you should start a topic

 questions asked in the middle of another topic are hard to find

http://www.opana.com/                 

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymorphone    

 

 

 I am not a Dr. I just play one on tv.




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Thanks guys, i am very

Thanks guys, i am very knowledgable about my whole entire lumbar area. I have a very high pain tolerance to, i have talked to my doctor but he told me i really cant get anything for the pain because of my age and addiction factor. My mom is the manager of the operating room in our town so thats the only push i have to help me. He said it will shrink my prostate, he trusts me, but he just wont help me with anything besides vicoden 5/500s. I cant do 90% of what i use to do i cant work or anything, as of now im on naproxen and robaxin and my back if SCREAMING PAIN bad enough for the E.R. Should i go. Or just wait till monday to make an appt with a doctor, even though ill get shutdown.



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Hey

Hey chronicpain20 im very sorry about your situation that really sucks to be at such a young age and in chronic pain without any real help relief wise. If I were you i would go to the E.R. if the pain is unbearable other wise I would wait an get an appt. with a pain management specialist because the E.R. sucks it takes soo long and everyone there just seems to hate their job (atleast in personal experiences). I hope things pan out for you. Regards, JpD.



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I have been dealing with it

I have been dealing with it for sometime now and i appreciate your guyses concern. I have been to 2-3 pain clinics they just tell me i need surgery buy am to young for it. I just wish if they cant do surgery dont make me sit home in brutal pain. Oxycodone 5s helped really good when they had me on 2 every 4-6hrs it was bearable. But i just get dicked around because of my age, i just want a doctor to be like ok were gonna HELP YOU. i havent heard that yet ive even traveled out of state.  I asked him if he could even get me a sleeping pill i sleep 1-3 hrs everynight eat about 4 times a week, blackout loose vision, and conentration. He said sleeping pills are to addicting for my age.



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That is nonsense

That is nonsense that your doctor wouldnt rx u some sleeping pills so you can get a good nights rest and says YOUR TO YOUNG. Im only 18yrs of age and ive been with my Dr since i was like 16 and he has no problem rxing my monthly meds. I take klonopin and clonidine. also have you ever had any previous drug history? because if you havent there is absolutely no logical explanation why your doctor is doing this and personally I would switch doctors because it dosnt seem like this guy really wants to help you.

-JpD




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Never ever, i have never had

Never ever, i have never had medicine until the accident that just about cripples me day in day out, i dont leave my house, i cant work, no income. I am very depressed and i dont wnt to say suicidal but i am about to give up life because i can no longer live with this pain its gotten to me every single day. I have never felt more dragged down and in so much pain i even take my parents with me to every appt i have had this doctor since i was born he knows me, and knows i have no drug history, or no family drug history. I know meds will help me get my quality of life back since they wont do surgery but im gonna give up if i gotta deal with with pain anymore, it hurts way to bad makes 20hrs of the day im awake 20 hrs of them im in chronic pain and discomfort. ive had 2 mris 2 cat scans all show the same exact problem.



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fairly ilitterate, perhaps

fairly ilitterate, perhaps your doctor doesnt get you the meds in the doses your looking for because maybe the LT side effects outweigh the advantages, not a negative comment, im just trying to help you find the problem..

..not a doctor..just an educated individual. my opinions WILL be recieved under this pretense.



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I agree but...

I agree that there is an addiction factor but for someone to be in that much pain i mean come on. I believe this person does not have an addictive personality because there was no prior abuse. I dont understand like the OP mentioned there was more relief with the percocet 5/500 atleast the Dr. should give that. If it came down to it thats not an extremely large dose (2 every 4hrs) and could be successfully tapered no matter what the age is. Just my opinion though.



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Exactly i know people on

Exactly i know people on methadone or oxycontin or fentanyl with just bad arthritis. I know im 20 but i dont want to suffer through this anymore. Im just gonna have to tell my doc. Call me down everyday if you have to to count my pills, i mean this isnt b.s this is serious this has turned my lifeup side down. I dont want to say medicine fixes me but it helps improve my quality of life without as much pain and discomfort. I can leave the house and walk around. By the way i gotta wear a back brace all day and take my cane with me if im walking. Im not doing pysical Theropy for nothing here, this is the 3rd try every other time was to excrutiating.



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Although you should probably

Although you should probably be on a slightly higher dose you need to realize you are only 20 and if you start on opiate management now....220 years from now your tolerance will be so high that nothing is gonna help. It is very hard for younger people to get appropriate reliefe just due to age and fears of turning young patients into addicts. If he wont give you anything higher than 5/500 at least ask to switch to the perc 5's you were taking or ask for a couple extra each day. make sure to mention how you cant work and your quality of life is suffering and unless he is a cold hearted ***hole then he should be semi-compassionate and help



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Agreed, but he is a little

Agreed, but he is a little cold he will only do 3 5/500 vicoden a day, he wont give me oxycodone sais everything else is to addicting. I was on fentanyl 1 time from his and that took it all away but after i went down and told them they worked he turned em off. Said well i cant keep giving you that due to addiction this is the best i can do he sais. I have no meds now i am in so much pain i cant even think straight what should i do.



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If the pain is that

If the pain is that bad and you are out of meds in a last resort effort I would go to the E.R. thats really the only thing you could do. Or you could call your Dr. and really tell him how your life is going be crystal clear that you are unhappy with the way he is treating you. As well as the level of pain you are in you need to tell him. I mean you cant do normal everyday things thats how bad the pain is affecting you. You cant work, did the insurance run out yet? I hope things work out i feel really bad for you. Regards, JpD.



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Just wanted to say that i

Just wanted to say that i understand where you are coming from completely. I have been in a few car accidents, and Im only 21. I know that from all the times ive been rammed into (once by a semi), there is something wrong with my neck that lies deeper than what docs think. they think its whiplash, but whiplash should not last for THREE YEARS! I cant get a doc to really listen to me, because they think im drug seeking. you need to find other ways if you are not getting the help you think you deserve. massages, acupuncture, chiropractic. i do all of those. although my pain is still present at nite when i try to sleep, the other therapies make my daily life managable without the pain meds, and i am not suggesting you get off the meds, it sounds like you def need them. what about surgery?



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I want surgery so i dont

I want surgery so i dont have to take medicine for this god aweful pain. But i am only 20 and they say by the time i am 30 i would need it again, due to scar tissue and whatnot they might not be able to do it again after that, which would really suck. But i have an appt wens, at 11 and next week at me twice a month pain clinic. I am going for my disability appt. I had lose of bowel control in bed last night, but i think all my pain is from the spinal stenosis and compressed nerve, and all the degeneration from T12-L1 L2 L5 and sciatic nerve. Mild to moderate but I very KNOWN A++ doctor said my back looks like a 69year old mans back. He sais MAN O MAN this isnt good MAANNN. Can i die from the stenosis or dejeneration after 40 years.



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if you are having loss of

if you are having loss of bowel control you should probably be in the hospital.  did you tell your doctor about this? if not i would call him or go to the er.



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Yes i am honest with my

Yes i am honest with my doctor they know about my bowel and bladder loss, they dont look at it as to big of a deal. I have so much PRESSURE grabbing my lower lumbar from some reason. Feels like pressure on my organs to. I am HURTING BAD guys.



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Did You

Hey chronicpain20 did you ever end up going to the E.R? and did you talk to your doctor about geting the switch back to atleast the percocet?




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No i dont go to the e.r

No i dont go to the e.r because, my insurance runs out in 5 days and cannot accept e.r trips so i just sit home in pain all day. I have 2 appts tom. 1 at the pain clinic she cant write scripts, but then i go to my family doctor right after that but im sure he wont write me anything, he never will so i dont push it. I just try my best to cope with the pain even though i cant leave the house. He tells me its in my head and stuff.




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Did you say you have issues

Did you say you have issues with you Lumbar Spine? or just your Thoracic Spine

What you are describing sounds like cauda equina syndrome.

Which is considered a medical emergency!

I would highly suggest you seek another opinion and SOON!

With a neurosurgeon or neurologist and not from your family practitioner





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If your doctor dont look at

If your doctor dont look at your loss of bowel and bladder control as a big deal then you should switch doctors or impress the point on your doc. There is no way i would just accept that and live with that cause one doc feels it isnt a big deal



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I have seen 2 surgens 1 said

I have seen 2 surgens 1 said its real bad but i am to young for surgery the other didnt even look at my mri just though i was a drug seeker. Said it would go away by itself in a year or 2. But the best doctor in the area said and i QUOTE Your back looks like a 69 year old mans back. So That cant be good, he was the one that wrote me the 90 script of 5/325s every 2 weeks that took the pain away. I still had it in my leg but i can live with that forever.



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HEY GUY, IM 32, MALE WITH

HEY GUY, IM 32, MALE WITH FIBROMYALGIA AND DEGENERATIVE DISC DISEASE IN MY NECK AND BACK. I STAY IN CHRONIC PAIN ALL DAY EVERYDAY. YOUR DR. SOUNDS LIKE A TOTAL idiot AND DOESNT KNOW WHAT THE HECK HE IS DOING.  IF YOU ARE LOOSING YOUR CONTROL OF YOUR BLADDER YOU SHOULD BE IN THE HOSPITAL.  THATS VERY SERIOUS MAN.  YOU COULD END PARALYZED IF THAT STUPID DR KEEPS WAITING.  I MAY NEED SURGERY ON MY NECK DUE TO COLLAPSED DISC, HERNIATED DISC, AND SEVERE BONE SPURS, ETC.  I TAKE 60MG OF METHADONE, 30MG MORPHINE, 700MG SOMA AND 3MG KLONOPIN DAILY.  I GUESS I AM VERY LUCKY TO GET MY MEDS.  THEY HELP BUT MY PAIN IS SO SEVRE, IT BREAKS RIGHT TROUGH THE PAIN MEDS.  I HAVE APPLIED FOR DISABILITY BACK IN 2006 AFTER I HAD TO QUIT MY JOB.  BEEN DENIED 2X'S AND NOW WAITING TO SEE JUDGE.  I WISH YOU NOTHING BUT THE BEST. YOU DESERVE ALOT BETTER CARE THAN YOU ARE RECEIVING. PLEASE TELL THAT DOC TO SHOVE OFF.  GO TO THE E.R. EVERYDAY IF YOU NEED TO.  NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER LIKE YOU DO...HUGS TO YA MAN. IF YOU NEED ANY INFO OR WHAT TO TALK, ACNKB4EVER, AOL.  TAKE CARE MAN...I PRAY YOU GET THE HELP YOU NEED SOON.

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Thanks man i appreciate well

Thanks man i appreciate well tomarrow when i go to the pain clinic and to my doc. Im gonna tell him straight up i cant do this anymore the hydrocodone doesnt help. The oxycodone takes the edge off and allows me to get around the house and to physical theropy and for walks with my cain. But the apap messed with me, IM GONNA TELL HIM STRIGHT UP whatever i gotta do to build his trust i am gonne tell him tom. I need help the pain is SEVERE AS HECK cant sleep or eat when i have meds i can eat sleep relax even move better without killing myself. Im gonna tell him i just wanna come down once a month to make sure were on the same page get my meds, come back next month do the same thing, come down tell him how im doin get my meds, he can even random count whenever he wants and he can even take me off them for a week after ever month if he feels better doin that. I got nothing to HIDE and the medicine can ONLY HELP ME NOW i have tried everything guys. This is my last hope, any other suggestions.

 

I go to my pain clinic tomarrow am to but she cant write scripts but im gonna tell her whats up with all this pain thats KILLING ME, and see if she can have someone write me something and i come back in a month and let her know how everything is going how its working and continue or improve with something else. I am honest with all of them i just need medicine because thats what helps me, at this point in pain and life it can only help. I filed for disability today 3-5 months till i hear. THANK YOU ALL!




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I wasnt worried about my

I wasnt worried about my bladder or bowel he said its prolly from the medicine is it really serious guys im in a boatLOAD OF PAIN here my lower lumber and my rear and testes hurt so bad it makes me sick to my stomach and cant eat. But the meds take all that away excpet for some back pain and some foot pain which i can TOTALLY LIVE WITH.

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hydro to oxy

chronic,  I wouldn't ask for oxycodone straight up.  Earlier you said you were prescribed 90 vicodin 5/500 every 2 weeks and that they helped.  In a later post you said you were going to sk for oxycodone because the hydrocodone did not help.  If they aren't helping then I would just see if the doc would up your mg of hydrocodone.  He might percieve you as seeking if you ask for oxycodone.  Anyway,  do what you feel is best.




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Hey guys just got back it

Hey guys just got back it went horrible she said i have red flags everywheres up all around when i asked for hydrocodones because they were improving my pain and quality of life. But no longer am i gettin meds or will again so looks like life over for my guys. I hope i didnt waste your time and im sorry, god bless all those in pain because the worst it coming for me.



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Very sorry to read about

Very sorry to read about your situation. As a suggestion, maybe call your dr. (or a dr. referral service) and ask for a referral to a psychologist. Explain to them you are having trouble coping with this whole situation and really need help. If you can get in to see a psychologist, maybe they could help  advise you on what you should do since you are suffering so terribly, can't function, and unable to get any help from your dr. They could have some answers or suggestions for you.

Keep on trying and never give up. It will all work out.




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did you explain that you

did you explain that you were already on hydrocodone and that you feel it doesnt work that good anymore or did you just walk in there and say your in pain and need hydrocodone? because how you say it is a big difference it the way the doc will percieve your intentions. Just because one doctor thinks your drug seeking doesnt mean they all do so try a different doc and be smarter about it...or just explain your pain situation and ask if there was anything to do because the meds your old doc were giving u werent working



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---chuck---DOCTORS THINK

---chuck---DOCTORS THINK NAPROXEN IS THE MIRACLE OF THE PAIN WORLD,ITS THEIR VICE,WHY DO PEOPLE WHO WANT PAIN MEDS GET TREATED LIKE CRACKHEADS?AND WHY DO SOME DOCTORS TELL YOU STORIES ABOUT HOW THEY ARE THREATED BY THESE SO CALLED "MEN IN BLACK" COMING IN WAVING THERE BADGES WITH THERE BLACK SUNGLASSES ASKING WHY THEYRE GIVING OUT PAIN MEDS?ITS 100%BULL,I MEAN THEY REALLY STOOP TO LEVELS TO BASICALLY TELL YOU GET LOST,AND VICODIN SHOULD BE BANISHED,NO PAIN RELIEF WHATSOEVER,AND THE ONE DRUG THAT DOES WORK(OXYCODONE)IS GUARDED LIKE ANY OTHER DRUG DEALER N STREET WOULD,SHUTDOWN AND THREATENED,OFFERED SUBOXONE OR DETOX,YOU NEED PAIN MEDS CHRONIC--DEMAND THEM

 




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I just ordered 600 DLPA

I just ordered 600 DLPA pills 500mg a peace maybe with no meds at all i can attempt these, to pray it might knock the edge off. I was suppost to be going to college in 3 days.



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DLPA???

What are DLPA pills?



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This is complete bull*%&$

My heart is breaking for you. I was injured when I was 21, I am now 31, have had two back/shoulder blade surgeries and still in horrible pain. I am quite functional though. I know the look you get when telling/asking for meds, Ive had it. It HAS to get better. The main thing you need now is a new Dr. This is crazy, I have never heard of such torture. If I was your Mother/Father I would be in these Dr.'s faces screaming to help my child. There is no way I could sit back and just watch you suffer. Although you are young, that doesn't mean you must suffer. What do your parents say? Do they see that your close to the "breaking point" Please if you have any thoughts of doing something to yourself GET HELP. There has to be someone out there willing to help you. YOur mom works in an ER? Can't she ask around for a trusting and empathetic Dr? I don't care if I went broke, there is NO WAY I would sit back and watch you deteriorate. Please find solace in knowing that everyone here is pulling for you, believe your pain, and believe you are being treated sub-human. I pray for your peace.



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What?

Call me dumb but what is 600 DLPA? Its use?



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 600 would be the amount he

 600 would be the amount he ordered, DLPA is an Amino Acid that is suppose to help with pain. The DLPA converts to another chemical that is natural in the body that in turn converts to dopamine and norepinephrine two of the bodies natural feel goods.

 I am curious now if this is something that the OP's doctor suggested after he cut him off real drugs or if its something he found online through his own research?  




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Does anyone know if this

Does anyone know if this actually helps? I would be willing to try if it could ease the pain even just a bit



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Thank you all for your

Thank you all for your suppost it has helped me a lot i even told my dr. i have been on a pain management, chonic website she told me that was dumb. They just put more stuff in my head, my family doctor told me my problem is serious but if i was 30 or 40 with this i would be hooked up forever. He said to go out of state.

The DLPA after a week or 2 of use with it instead of taking say 5 5/325 oxycodones a day you would only have to take 1 maybe 2 a day to get the same effect, it increases dopamines in your body.

Next appt is on the 20th, at a place that only take 21 and younger kids with chronic pain so i am praying they are going to help me with my pain. THank you guys a lot it helps me get through the day.




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Yes the DLPA is my own

Yes the DLPA is my own decision since they say 19 is way to young for any narcotic no matter what the pain. I get about 2 hrs of sleep everynight which is really good sees how before i would be up 3-4 days straight with no sleep. People thought i looked like feces now, even when i went to my pain management doc, she had to check my heart rate 5 time and my bloody pressure high both are through the roof due to pain. They know this, my parent are very supportive but its hard for them as well they know what i go through but with them asking for meds for me makes me feel even worse. Like i cant do it on my own i have now found out I CANT DO IT ON MY OWN. im dyin here in pain, i feel like screamin.

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Thats great

Thats great chronicpain20 im glad that you got an appt with a Dr. that specializes in treating younger patients. I think you have a really good shot here to actually get some relief and its great that your parents have been very supportive through all off this. The horizon looks bright! please get back to us and tell us how everything went. Good luck bud.

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I go to the doc in 4 days

I go to the doc in 4 days imma be straight up with em and tell him i have tried everything i am in agony. Cant sleep, cant eat, in a lot of pain all day and night. Maybe he can help me with meds and meds for breakthrough pain. I pray he helps me but im not gonna get my hopes up. Im not gonna go in asking, im gonna go in looking for information about what can help me at this point in life.



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hang in there bro I know how

hang in there bro I know how hard it is to deal with pain without the right meds.  You are definately right about the hydros your taking. They are 5/500 right?  I am on 5/325 percocets and they work great.  Maybe if they bumped u up to norco or something that would work.  I am trying to get my doctor to bump me up from the 5 mg to something higher becuase i have to at least take two to feel any relief.  Good luck



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I hope on the 20th they can

I hope on the 20th they can help me with month meds to improve my quality of life and to allow me to get out and start rebuilding my life. But i cant do it on my own i need my docs help and yours. You guys have been great thanks for everything ill keep you updated. I wont give up.



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Get a Lawyer!!!

First things first man, and that is that your condition is debilitating and you need to accelerate your Disability process.  Nothing works faster than an Attorney.  And no, I'm not an Attorney (but I was married to one); and everyone I know who is on Disability, first tried to go through the process alone and nothing every happened.  Each and everyone of these people I know hired Attorney's and within only a few months were getting thier Disability Checks.  Even retroactive from the start of the Diagnosis.  These people are getting meds each month in the triple digit quantities now; as needed of course.

I know money's tough to come by, but surely you got enough people/family/friends out there who are watching you suffer; and care enough about you to help pitch in.  Plus, networking is the key.  Your Attorney will most likely be able to get you in touch with a Doctor that will help in the meantime.  Heck, he/she might even take you on pro-bono if they see any malpractice here.

I suffer from severe Migraines from a Serious Head Trauma Injury from many years ago, and I know my pains don't come close to what your going through; so, don't wait around for any of these Doctors to take care of you when you can get an Attorney to force someone to.

I've read this whole thread, and mommy2two is the only person who caught on to your thread mentioning your mother's occupation.  You got the resources, now you just need to expedite the assistance/care you need.  I hope this helps man.




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hey

Hi what state do you live in and how far are you willing to travel? I know of a few good doctors who will help younger patients and believe that nobody should have to live in pain. Most of their clients are on a lot stronger medications then you are asking for. I believe you would be able to get the prescriptions that would help you with no problems whatsoever. I also know of 1 online place that if you live very far from the doctors I know of will do your cosultation through web cam. Yes this is approved through the DEA and fax the scripts to the pharmacy of your choice the next day. So I have a couple options for you to consider if you really need the help. hit me up.

 

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Rg i sent you a PM if this

Rg i sent you a PM if this place doesnt work out tomarrow i am not sure what i am gonna do but all help that rg or whoever can give me on great doctors that help younger kids like rg is talking about PM me please.All help is very appreciative and loved thanks a lot.



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Hello everyone i got a few

Hello everyone i got a few pics of my mri of the compressed nerves and the stenosis and osteocondrosis. T11-L5 worst.

http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10001451jr1.jpg

 

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Went today to the 21 and

Went today to the 21 and under place unfortunely i was the only one under 21 everyone else 40-80years old. He didnt know how to read my mri so he read off what was wrong gave me lyrcia i think. But my pharmacist couldnt fill this without the doctors notification, she said she could replace it with noratin not sure on spelling. Pharmacist she said he gave you this off the bat.



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Most likely the other med

Most likely the other med she gave you was neurontin which is name brand gabapentin which is in the same class as the lyrica. They are both non-narcotic nerve pain meds that work on the gaba receptor.....



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yes

 sounds like neurontin or gapapentin...it is a very,good drug for some of my nerve pain...i am at about 2400 mgs a day...i just asked for a increase and got it...this drug does take a while to get used to...but it has done what narcotics wont do...give the dr a chance and this drug...please...take care.

 

 

 I am not a Dr. I just play one on tv.




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Absolutely i will give

Absolutely i will give anything a chance but when it comes down to it the PT has helped with my foot movements and function. But since i havent had medicine to cope with the pain i just cannot do it without causing more damage. I am not seeking anything but relief of my pain and some sort of answer to what will improve my quality of life at this time. Since Surgery it out of the question due to age, but 10 years from now i wont have my T11-L5 my doctor said. Unless i can cope with the pain weather it be from carefull and a few years of pt or medicine and much faster rate of getting better and stronger. Even though it dulls the pain it still improves my quality of life with getting out, its sad when you cant even drive your own car to the drs office. Cmone guys you know exactly what i am saying when all hope is lost there is 2 things you can always count on family/friends and pain relievers when the pain is so bad you do it to be able to live your life to the fullest right now IM ON EMPTY. Please concour with me we chronic painers have all felt this way am i right. Atleast a few other people i have talked to do as well.



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He put me on 2 50mg doses 1

He put me on 2 50mg doses 1 in AM 1 in PM




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well idk how much of your

well idk how much of your pain is from neurological pain but my mother was put on 75mg three times a day with percocet as needed for fibromyalgia....for discs that are pushing on your spinal column you might need a little more than 50mg BID and no narcotics but i am not a doc and that is just opinion. 



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Did you take a peak at my

Did you take a peak at my mri where the stenosis is and the compressed bulged and small herniated nerve. Im just frustrated i just have to be smarter about who i  see and what i do.



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My thoughts are this. If all

My thoughts are this. If all of these Dr.'s are refusing to give you the narcotics, why not tell him you heard about Ultram (tramadol) It is not the best pain relief, but it truly works for me. Granted my pain is no where yours is, but maybe the combo will help at least a little bit more. I would give it a few days and call the office, tell them the pain is not dulling, you have to see the Dr. again. If they tell you to wait for the Lyrica to kick in, ask for some relief until then. Ultram is synthetic darvocet, I believe. The other guys around here know far more thatn I could ever tell you. Its just a suggestion, take it or leave it. Although, my though is that you have to make it clear to these Dr.s the pain is not better. I come to this site daily to check on you, I hope you find peace.



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Thanks for your responses

Thanks for your responses guys ive tried every drug literally, But yesterday i meant a great doctor who is abolutely awesome he started me off with steroid, muscle relaxer and valium for sleep. He knows i am in chronic pain he can see it when i walk. He said if this medicine doesnt help then i need to get another mri and he wants to send me to a neurosurgeon for setup with surgery.... FINALLY i am still in a lot of pain but hey its a start i am very happy with him he was very very nice cared about what i said and is guiding me in the right direction.



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As in every non noarcotic

As in every non noarcotic lyrica, flexeril, robaxin, zanaflex, soma... A few other i cant think of off the top of my head. Thanks for all the help guys.



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You are correct Ultram is

Mommy2two:

You are correct Ultram is Tramadol

However Darvocet is Propoxyphene and Acetaminophen

 




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Yes maam i have tried

Yes maam i have tried darvocet and ultram. I remember when i was perscribed oxycodone 5/325 4 times daily was pretty good but even better with neproxyn. I wouldnt take it without neproxen that just helps a lot with the pain medicine! Not asking for it or anything just out of all my attempts to help my quality of life and pain that worked wonders. I could move daily and did even realize i had a back problem till night time. I loved life.



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I hope you get the treatment

I hope you get the treatment yo deserve and learn to love life again. Remember, its going to get better, I hope sooner rather than later.




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Thank you mommy2two if i

Thank you mommy2two if i doesnt happen sooner im afraid i cant handle later...... Later will be to late hense LATE  R.



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Finally after all this time

Finally after all this time i found the right doctor he is amazing he knows my chronic pain listens and treats it with care. He also has my trust and i have his so we are both on the same exact level. I coulnt be happier. I AM PAIN FREE I AM PAIN FREE I AM PAIN FREE WOW i am just yelling it sorry, for those of you out there who have had trouble with docs. KEEP TRYING NEVER GIVE UP.




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THATS GREAT, BTW YOU

THATS GREAT, BTW YOU MENTIONED THAT NAPROXYN HELPED YOU A LOT. YOU CAN GET THAT OVER THE COUNTER, SOLD AS ALIEVE, IM PRETTY SURE. JUST UP THE DOSE TO WHATEVER YOU WERE TAKING WHEN IT WAS PRESCRIBED TO YOU BY THE DOC. (JUST A SUGGESTION, IM NOT A DOCTOR SO CHECK WITH HIM FIRST!) SO, WHAT DID THE DOC PUT YOU ON THAT HAS TAKEN ALL THIS PAIN AWAY SO QUICKLY? IM SO CURIOUS?

 

 




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C'mon

We all want to know how you are doing! Please give us an update!



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I made a new thread on my

I made a new thread on my condition but my back pain is getting no better with aqua and land theopy my doctor just had my start cousouling to talk to someone about my pain. Also i got denied for social security and disability they said i am to educated to collect. Also the oxycontin 20mg 4 times a day is putting my level 8-9 pain with doing no activities to about a 3 which makes me very very happy. Im just upset how they denied me for the SSI and Disability due to my high education.



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cp

 what is this education that you have that SS would deny you.?..I have never heard this one before...Laughing....thanks for a laugh this morning.

either you are physically disabled or not/ or you have one of many problems....being to highly educated is not going to make you not disabled...what you are probably trying to say is this...due to your education there is suitable work that you can still perform that does not involve you back problems...making you still able to earn a living.

 

 

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I am pysically unable to do

I am pysically unable to do any type of work weather it be a sitting desk job to a contractor or crane operator i cant sit longer than 20 minutes. Majority or my days or lived by laying down to get throught the pain. They are aware of my present condition and that i cant do work i have tried about 10 jobs prior to my accidents. All i have failed at and have hurt worse from and all were non labor jobs.



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ok then

 please tell me why you believe this to be true

"Im just upset how they denied me for the SSI and Disability due to my high education."

 i don't get it. 

 

 

 I am not a Dr. I just play one on tv.




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Lol....that was a good laugh

Lol....that was a good laugh

"Im just upset how they denied me for the SSI and Disability due to my high education."



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Disability

Hi. I am much older than you but your education has nothing to do with disability. If a doctor has terrible arthritis in his hands and is a surgeon and can no longer perform surgery how can his education have anything to do with disability.Makes no sense.I applied twice on my own and was denied for insane reasons. I got a lawyer and although they were paid 25% of my retro check it was well worth it.I don't know if I can mention who I used so I'll just say its on TV all the time.My sister was in her 30's when she received disability due to lupus and she has her masters, so again another example of education. There is a very useful web site that I use all the time.It's http://www.ssa.gov/.If you can't get through with that link, just use Social Security Online and it should bring you to the site.Best of Luck and keep us posted.Nancie



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yea

 if you really can't work hurry and reapply.  I am not saying you are not in pain...I have been on disability for over 20 years...I know how they operate a little bit.Smile

 

 

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Tell 'em you can't do your P/T in so much pain.....

In cases like yours, most docs want you to do physical therapy to rehab your body as much as possible. So, start telling your Phys. Therapist that you are in TOO MUCH pain to do your PT, then ask him/her to see what he/she, the DOC, and you can do to get you sufficiently pain-free so you can at least do your PT. Tell them that if you can't do the PT -- and surgery is out per your statement above -- then you have no hope things will get better.

Ultimately, though, it looks to me that you will have to find a REAL doctor who is afraid to treat pain.

Reading your posts, I almost get the feeling you feel embarrassed or not entitled to pain relief. You must get over that and if necessary, find a new doc, IMHO.

When I was first stricken with pancreatitis, I had a surgeon who didn't want me to have any pain meds. Eventually, though, I found good pain docs.....and so should you.

 

Best of luck,

 

M

 




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It is very hard to obtain a

It is very hard to obtain a physical disability. If you have ever suffered from any form of mental disorders then that would be your best bet in regards to receiving SSI benefits along with Social Security. The BTS group can assist you if they assist people in your area.That's wonderful that your new Dr. prescribed you something for which is working effectively in treating your pain. Hopefully in your state you can re-apply for assistance to cover your medical expenses. I hope the best for you. Take care of yourself.



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I personally know a family

I personally know a family member for whom was rejected from receiving SSI and Social Security. The reason behind them rejecting her was because she spoke very well for herself. I'll tell you some of the things they are mainly looking for. One is they are checking your work history. Two they are checking your school history. Three they are checking for hospitalisations for your conditions, you've listed. Four they are taking into account what you've been prescribed. It is best to apply for not only physical but mental as well that is if you're experiencing mental disorders. They can attempt to trick you when it comes to physical. I know from personal experience. I was sent to a physical Dr. by the state and the Dr. left the room and as soon as he departed I heard a popping sound followed by a ding. I examined the floor and saw a skeleton key. I bent over to pick it up and I looked over to the sink and saw a paper towel dispenser. Upon closer examination I saw that at the top of the paper towel dispenser was an indentation. I pressed it in and a few seconds passed and voila the indentation popped up. I looked up and lo and behold a camera. So for those of you who have back problems. I repeat do not pick up that key. Lol! I didn't receive my physical disability. I received my mental one though. My dear relative calls it a stupid check others I know call it the crazy check. Take care each and every one of you. I hope you all had a good laugh from my post.