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ONCE A DAY METHADONE DOSERS I have some questionsHow do you know if your on your right dose,, I have been going and am up to 74mg going up 5 mg a week. the first week or so I felt fine was motavated to work... but it seemed to where off after about half day and just fade from there, till I dose now days when i get my increases i feel no diffrent still crave later in the day I dont know what to do..is there a magic amount I am looking for to feel right... I have beengoing up five a week for 6-8 weeks and feel no diffrent after any increases ?? ( categories: Chronic Pain and Pain Management )
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Hi Jccj300 I attend a methadone clinic & dose every day. Your dose is usually calibrated with the amount of drugs you were using before you decided to get clean. Could it be that you are having other health issues your not aware of? there is a test that can be done to see iff the methadone is staying in your system. 74 ml isn't that huge of a dose maybe you just haven't gotten to your optimum dose yet. Remember a big part of addiction is also the ritual you practiced each time you took drugs. Hang in there you'll find a comfortable dose. if you dont have them run the test i was telling you about. not sure of the spelling "PEAK & TROUGH TEST" i'm a recovering addict, clean 11 yrs! the methadone really saved my life!!! Good Luck. (edited) was waiting for a doser to sign on
yea I have been going up 5 mg a week ... and I feel okay for about 6-8 hours... yes I am a chronic pain patient as well, just having problems getting my records transfered to my new pm doc (new insurance) ... but I am on methadone for addiction not pain... ;-) methadone has changed my life .. .andprobly saved my life as well and probly kept my criminal record clean as well... opiate abuse free since 6-9-08 Nascar #88 GO JR!! Am glad methadone has helped
Am glad methadone has helped you, but isnt methatdone a narcotic as well. If you are going up 5 mg a week I believe that your addiction is not going to get better unless you are able to ween down on the amount you are taking. You made the right decision to obtain the medicine legally but you are not helping your addiction much by upping your dosage every week. Try staying at the same level that you are on now and instead of going up 5 mg next week stay and the same level. Then the following week try to lower the dosage to 5 mg less. and so on until you get to a very low dose. That my two sense on the subject gonna disagree here Spencej6
You can't keep messing with your dose like that! I think maybe 5 ml each raise is a bit much tho. @ my clinic they do 2-3 ml each raise unless you've just gotten on the clinic. She'll know when she's at the right dose because the cravings will cease. And the done will carry her thru to the next day possibly to the middle of the next day. Methadone has a longer half life than most opiates. I'm very pro-methadone because it's kept me clean 11 yrs.!!!! Not to be silly, and maybe I
Not to be silly, and maybe I missed something, but... How did your dose end up at 74 mg if you move up in increments of 5mg at a time? Did you start on an odd number? Sorry, but things like that interest me more than the addiction stories anymore. gtrplayer I have to agree with spence
I have to agree with spence and disagree with you sissy. Although I believe methadone is a better alternative to obtaining illicit drugs, it is an extremely powerful full opiate agonist with morphine like qualities. Methadone clinics are money pits and they want to keep you on methadone for this reason. It makes no sense to keep raising the dose, as this is a never ending process as there is no ceiling limit on tolerance to opiates. I cant even imagine the dose you must be on after 11 years. I think if you really want to be clean then you need to slowly wean down as spence said and eventually trully become clean by being opiate free. If you have legitimate pain issues and addiction issues then you may want to talk to a doctor about getting a prescription to methadone. Methadone has an extremely long half-life but once a day dosing is for MMT and not pain. When I was prescibed methadone I would take it once in the morning and then again at night. This works better IMO than once a day dosing for both pain and for maintainance. Check with a licensed MD before you take any suggestions! I am new to the methadone program
I am raising my dose till I get to (stabilizing dose) ...I started going up two mg at a time then got to going up 5 mg at a time.. I should get to a point where I dont crave or feel sick like wd.. I have an addictive disorder and have taken everything and have always used one thing or another..all of my life and i probly always will... so I think i will take methadone for life!! I have cronic pain and was taking 18-30 norcos a day for 2-3 years..you dont know what it is like telling your 3 yo son I am too sick to play...whyle w/d...or I know you wanna eat mc donalds..but we got to eat bologna or ramen noodles this week... whyle I spend 2000 a month on pills... I am gratefull for whoever told me about methadone and my cronic back pain is bearable and I havent once taken a pain pill of any kind since I started and.I have my life back and my son has his daddy back... and for any of you who say I need to go down or ween off... thanks for caring but this has saved me and still is.. opiate abuse free since 6-9-08 methadone dosing
Dear Jccj300,I too feel like i will be on methadone for life, but a healthy productive life is much better than the life we were living. Hang in there things will only get better. Just try real hard to not pick up anything else that could jeopradize the path that your on now. Good Luck & God Bless. Sissy Gotta disagree with you too King
Not that i feel like i have to explain my dosage to you but you seem so ill informed I felt i must! I have been on 35 ml for several yrs now. I was @ 15ml but other health issues made it necessary to go back up a little on my dose. I've had cancer twice& now diagnosed with HCV ( hepatitis C )NOTHING could replace the feeling i got when my loved ones got to see me CLEAN. No more hustling, lying, stealing & all the pain that comes with an addiction. Your thoughts on methadone clinics being money pits couldnt be further from the truth. My clinic is federally funded so the fees are based on a sliding scale. I pay $20.00 a MONTH. Wow they must make alot off of me. If you find a clinic that provides counseling your blessed. Not all of them do. Theoriginal poster said her MMT is for addiction not for pain the help she recieved for her pain is an extra bonus!!!!FYI there is a licensed MD on the premises. For the record sissy, I am
For the record sissy, I am very informed. I think it is wonderful that you are what you consider to be clean. You go to one of the few clinics that may not be a money pit, not all are so fortunate. You also go to a cheap clinic which is why they don't have counselours which are a major component to recovery. The average clinic costs usually an inital couple hundred dollars and then about 13 dollars a day for your dose. Yes this is nothing compared to someone spending hundreds of dollars a day to get high. And lets see so far they have made 20x12x11=2,640 plus what you initially paid to get in. I don't know your age but if you plan to go for life it is going to be a couple more grand. If it is a sliding scale shouldn't the price "slide" i.e. not always be the same? The original poster is a male for one and does have pain issues for two. This is why I suggested a doctor that deals with addiction as well. You are new here and If you think I am uniformed on methadone just track my postings for the last few years and you will see I know more about this drug than any person in this forum. Maybe you didn't notice the picture thats comes with all my posts. I am very sorry that you have had cancer twice possibly not your fault. And I am sorry you have hep C but I know how this virus is caught as well as you do. When I went to a methadone clinic and they said we are going to raise your dose and I said that's rediculous, I came here to get clean not more strung out. You are on a fairly low dose, there are many people who take upwards of 200mg in a dose and claim to not get euphoria and as a person with experience with this drug I know this is not true. FYI I am not an idiot. I know they have MD's and nurses at methadone clinics, they also have MD's nurses in hospitals and schools. My one question is you say 35ml of methadone which doesn't tell me anything(I know how uninformed I am) since that could be 1mg of methadone or 200mg per 35ml. I assume you mean 35mg. Please don't say it is always a one to one ratio everywhere. If you understand you will be on methadone for life and that methadone is a synthetic morphine substitute synthesized by a german scientist in anticipation for morphine shortages during WWII and is a full opiate agonist just like oxycodone and diamorphine and is extremely addictive then I wish you all the best, and I am glad it has helped you with your family. To the Original Poster I do understand what you are going thru and as I said before MMT is a much better alternative than illicit drug use. I wish you nothing but luck in your recovery. Check with a licensed MD before you take any suggestions! king
king I have been trying to get set up with a pain managment place that my insurance covers..I have been trying to get my records from my pc doc to clinic for 2 months.. they dont wanna give my info to them for some reason... anyways I really am hoping I can get perscribed methadone for pain so I wont have to go to the clinic. and my clinic is a money pit they will let you go up as much as you want and its 9 a day 60 to get started... the good part is you get to see the doctor any time you feel you need to and you must attend counseling sessions monthly....and I feel like I am clean ...just treating this disease they call addiction... and as a bonus my pain is being helped...but onr bad thing...i dose at 5:15-5:30 am every day except if i sleep in on sunday at around 9 am I am in full blown wd and that seems odd since the half life is as long as it is..
opiate ABUSE free since 6-9-08 You def. have the right to
You def. have the right to that info and I would just be very firm with them and if you have to you could subpena the records. Clinics are money pits and try to keep people with just old addictions hooked as long as they can, thats why I keep recommending a doc who maybe also deals with addiction issues. The whole thing with the early morning dosing or your sol is very dumb in my opinion. Even with the long half life which varies quite a bit and you may have fast metabolism by the time you go to bed you aren't going to be sleeping well. When I was prescribed 80mg a day I would usually take 40 when I got up or was about to get up and 40 at night and it was great, but even with that and 6mg of xanax a day I couldn't keep from relasping. As I said I wish you the best and hope you can get to a doctor that can help you, because having to go to a clinic everyday is just a pain, esp. when a months supply of methadose costs about 25 bucks without insurance. Good luck with everything if you have any real specific or personal questions shoot me a PM and I'll try to help the best I can. I like that "opiate ABUSE free" very accurate. Three months today congradulations. Check with a licensed MD before you take any suggestions! wow 3 months
I didn't realize ... it has been a very good 3 months ...I paid off my car and bought me a new 47" lcd tv... what am I gonna do with all this extra money I aint used too.. My baby boy is very spoiled as of late... and especially with my attention :-) johnny opiate ABUSE free since 6-9-08 methadone
King, your just to tuff a nut to crack! First of all i never called you an idiot! & i used the wrong suffix mg, ml, i never claimed to be an expert on anything, i just know what's worked for me! Not very nice of you to try to undermine the treatment plan i'm on. Let's say my clinic is inexpensive, not CHEAP. My clinic has a full staff of accredited counselors & I attend weekly groups & a one on one with my counselor monthly. As far as you bieng the most informed re: methadone i'd have to give that to Mdonia. The amount of your posts means nada to me it's the content that counts. I'm done going back & forth, just a waste of energy.P.S. what the heck does the picture next to your post have to do with anything!!!!!!!!! One thing i feel i'm iinformed on, you mentioned doing xanax with methadone. Forshame!! No offense sissy but I find
No offense sissy but I find that very hard to believe. I quote "and now diagnosed with Hep C." 1982 was 26 years ago, I find it hard to believe you have had hep c for 26 years without ever finding out until recently. Not to mention blood is checked for everything, not to say it is an impossibility because it does happen. I repetedly said that I am happy for both you and the OP that methadone has helped you. As for Mdonia, I have a Private message he sent to me asking for my help on methadone questions because he was told by various other posters that I am very informed on the subject. I would foward it to you but that would be a breach of confidence. But if he was around lately I'm sure he would be glad to verify this. I don't claim to know everything sissy, but I will say again that I know an extreme amount about methadose. The picture is of 40mg methadone wafers if you couldn't figure that out. I was prescribed methadose and xanax by the same doctor and although it can be a fatal combo so can a lot of other drugs that are prescibed in combination. If you know so much about M'donia's posts you would know he takes clonazepam as well as 195mg of methadone in one dose, which would probably kill about 99.9 percent of the population. These are only dangerous interactions when abused or used by people who are opiate or benzodiazapine naive. You said your clinic didn't have counselors and not all are so lucky, yada yada. I am not here to argue or pass judgement on anyone, I understand opiate addiction, I believe it is a brain disease caused by many factors including genetics. I get along with just about every person on this site and many have come to me with questions about methadone. Again I am glad you are opiate ABUSE free but to say you are clean is inaccurate, that would mean you are free of all foreign substances and you are not. Check with a licensed MD before you take any suggestions! Sissy, are you in the UK
Sissy, are you in the UK or USA? In the US when people usually refer to there dose its in MG form not mL. However incase you are in the UK so you know for reference in the US there are three liquid preperations available and they are 5MG/5ML, 10MG/5ML and 10MG/ML. And just so we are clear the OP said he was on 74MG not mL. had money issues
Didnt really have money issues just was wasting 500 a week .. plus my house hold income has grown 3000 a month as my wife started working about 6 weeks ago.. in addition to my 4000... life is great these days ... spence please take your perks like your supposed to cause it can very easily go from one extra now to way outta control in no time it has happened to many people I know!!! have a great day everyone johnny opiate ABUSE free since 6-9-08 Phillips
got the phillips with the full 1080dpi..it is awesome. and of course got hd cable box with dvr right in time for football season ...go cowboys ...and the chase for the cup... go jr ...have a pain free day everyone johnny
opiate ABUSE free since 6-9-08 This is a bit off topic but
This is a bit off topic but in case you aren't aware cable companies and Broadcasters only transmit a 1080i picture. If you want the full on 1080p then you will need to get a blu-ray device or subscribe to Turbo HD (A new service from dish network) Again sorry for going off topic. Methadone ?
I am on methadone and have been for almost 9 months. I am on 70 mg a day. I started at 25 mg and now I am finally at a level I hope to stay at for a while. I say keep going up til the cravings go away. If you start getting to the point of feeling really tired or nodding off you will know that is probably to much. Only you know how you feel. You won't really feel the increases. I know I didn't. I used to go up 1mg some weeks to 3mg and then 5mg and never felt the increase just felt better as far as pain level was more manageable. I am not a doctor this is my own opinion and personal experience. Good Luck. Priester am still going up
I told the nurse monday that at 6-8 hours after I dose I was getting sick stomach and feel kinda cravy, and told her that if i sleep in past 7am I start to withdrawlwith bad stomach cramps and feel sick... she raised me ten up to 90mg that was monday and I dont even feel any diffrent and I only weigh 140.. guess I just metabolize methadone quick and need to split dose opiate ABUSE free since 6-9-08 |
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