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Hi,

 There is a Hydrocodone 15 that my Pain Management doctor started me on yesterday.  It is a compound drug that contains only the Hydrocodone.  No Tylenol at all.    There may be another Hydrocodone 15 out there that has the 100 mg of Tylenol, I don't know. I just started it yesterday.  I had to take the script to a special pharmacy that can make compound drugs.  So, I can't get the script filled at just any pharmacy.  Mine is a white capsule.  I haven't opened one up so I don't know what the powder looks like.  The doctor started me on this because we've been trying a lot of other pain meds that just don't seem to work for me.  The hydrocodone is the only one that seems to work.  Because we've been concerned about the amount of Tylenol, we went with the Hydrocodone 15 compound.  That way, I could have the medication that worked for me without the Tylenol.  I hadn't ever heard of the Hydrocodone 15 compound until the nurse mentioned it to me yesterday while in the office.  

Hope this helps.

 Sharon

I second incognito's remark, actually 100mg of APAP is the lowest I've ever seen. 

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I'm curious

How much Hydrocodone can one take at one time. I've read of dosages of up to 30 mgs. How much is too much? Anybody know the answer to that one?

(edited by TeamPharmer) 

 100mgs is nothing!

bill,

first off, schedule I medications dont exist. at least not in the practical theroy. schedule I drug refers to a drug that has no medicinal value.

secondly, through ROP of OCS schedule II meds are NOT available. in other words the strongest thing that you will find is what you currently take UNLESS, you go see a 'in person' doctor and get a rx.

thirdly, kirby was simply stating that many of the pills sold from on-line compounding pharmacies DO NOT have the amount of drug that they are suppose to.

she is NOT saying that yours does or does not have 15 mg.

and one could also refer back to incognito's post stating that when there is less than 80mg in a combo like that it becomes a CII due to higher risk potential for abuse.

The 15/200 compounded Hydrocodone you are speaking of does come in a half white/half green capsule but the powder inside is white.

I would say when referring to an online pharmacy your statement could be accurate. With all the online pharms out there, it is sometimes hard to put faith in some claims.

But when dealing with a physical pharmacy (in the US), where you drop of the Rx and go pick it up later, that statement would NOT be accurate.

Compound meds can often be made 'in house' at several local pharm's in your area. It is likely that the same local pharmacy a person has been using for years (even many large retail chains) may be able to compound meds, which many people are unaware of.

For instance, I know of a small, privately owned pharm in a town with a pop. of 6,000 that does compounding work.

When dealing with these types of pharms, you can rest assured that you are getting exactly what the doctor ordered (especially when it comes to controlled substances) thanks to very strict regulations and protocols in place.

Compound pharms can prepare a variety of meds, for a variety of reasons. They can prepare meds into lollipops for children or those who have difficulties swallowing tablets. They can provide a low dose heart med for a patient that requires only a certain amount. They can do all sorts of interesting things.

But I agree with the part that in some situations these meds might not be the most economically efficient choice.

Tim, your post is timely! Check out this article from the DEA's August 2006 Microgram Bulletin:

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- INTELLIGENCE ALERT -

HYDROCODONE CAPSULES IN EASTERN KENTUCKY

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Just a little input:  I know someone who orders hydrocodone from a "phone-a-doc" in Hawaii.  They fax their medical records to him and do the over the phone consultation, and the doc orders the compound to be made and shipped to Indiana.  These capusles are a tannish-white (with NO MARKINGS--a real no-no here in the good old USA) and they are said to contain 14.9 mg hydrocodone with Guafinessin (sp?) which I believe is sort of like a decongestant.  But from my understanding, the tylenol that's compounded with say Vicodin, Lortab or Norco is what actually works with the hydrocodone to alleviate the pain.  So he takes these pills with a generic tylenol 500 mg tablet, and he swears by them.  But as others have already pointed out--who knows what's really in these pills if they're not coming from a legit reputable pharmaceutical company with any type of imprint.  Oh yeah--he gets prescribed 200/month of these--that's almost 100 mg of hydrocodone/day!  Has anyone else ever heard of or saw these capsules?  If I can figure out my camera phone and how to load an image from there to here, I'll try to add a pic to this post.

I know a friend who had a compunded rx for 15mg hydrocodone and 80mg apap here in Portland, OR. They were unmarked orange capsules with a greenish blue powder inside. This comes from a completely legit doctors office thruogh Providence medical group, a huge health care group here in OR.

First off i would like to say i found this board via a search engine. Ive been using a ROP for over a year now. They perscribed me 10mg/650mg Hydros, the green ones. Im up to taking 4 times per day for back pain. I call in every 28 days and they refil my script. Ive been using them no issues. Recently i called in and they said they were out of 10mg/650mg hydros but had 15mg/200mg hydros. They told me that there would be an adjustment period to my body and that it would be a lot safer not running such hi-dosages of Acetaminophen. They said if i could take some Tynoel if i needed to at first if my body didn't adjust properly. So far i can really tell a difference. These babies are definately very potent and with the capasule they get into your body much faster. They are the greenish white tinted caps that everyone has been talking about. Hope this helps.

Vitussin® is 5mg Hydrocodone bitartrate and 100mg of Guaifenesin per 5ml and is used to help control cough. CodiClear DH® is 3.5mg Hydrocodone bitartrate and 300mg of Guaifenesin. These formulations are typically prescribed for symptomatic relief of irritating nonproductive cough associated with upper and lower respiratory congestion.There is information about these being pulled off of the shelves as they are not approved formulations of Hydrocodone as indicated by FDA prescribing standards. I dont have the direct link, but it can be found easily on the FDA web site.

I live In Eastern Kentucky.. And Ive never heard of them ..lol.. Sorry just had to add that , i have no idea on this topic. But its great getting to read what everyone thinks!

How much, if you don't mind me asking, did it cost to have that compounded?  I was at $45.00, before insurance reimbursement, for hydrocodone 10/ibuprofen 200 caplets compounded.   

Gtrplayer

Wow, that's expensive.  Please do not post the name of the pharmacy, but is it through an online pharmacy or is it through a domestic (US) compounding pharmacy?  Please do not post the name of the online pharmacy.   

Gtrplayer

I just reposted pics of my 15/200 Hydro/APAP's for everybody on here. 

These are the ones that some were speaking of. Now I don't know if 'mentioning pharm names and Docs etc. here is a no no", so I won't. but these come from a reputable one, and IMO, are great...much betterb than the Watson 10/325's.  Click on the pic or for a more details and a bigger photo.

Have a good day,

acey

 Have a great friday!

ACEY 

I'm no physician, nor pharmacist.  What I say should be under no circumstances taken as medical advice.

any markings on the capsule?  do you know the company and/or country of origin?

I would like to state that there are way higher dosages of the hydrocodone compound than 15/80 or 15/100.I have been taking 30/200 for about 6 months now.From what I hear,they can be found at even higher dosages.I go to a real Dr.and my prescription is filled at a compounding pharmacy.My 30/200's are clear and have blue powder in them.They are really helpful with my fibromyalgia and lower back disc problems.I get 90 a month,take 3 a day and they cost 75.00.My insurance does not cover compounds so I just pay cash because they are lifesavers.

i would also really like to know about these pills.

i can't find them ANYWHERE on the internet. they are sort of fat, white capsules, some may say off-white, with yellowish powder in them. they have no imprint or marking of any kind on the capsule. they are claimed to be 10/200, but i can't seem to find them anywhere, and they don't seem to work hardly at all. 

please help!! 

hmm.

well, so far i've found people saying they are the same thing, but have the same questions as i. for example, see above.

Type in Vicodin CR in the search engine.

There was a patch that was being developed at one point containing hydrocodone, but I am not sure that it ever got approved. Plus, I don't feel like looking it up right now to see. Sorry, but I know you know how to do that stuff.

gtrplayer

 All of the clinical trials for Vicodin CR have been completed. That is a press release that was released after there completion.I have emailed abbott in the past about information reguarding Vicodin CR, but they said the only way they could give me any info was for me to call them, which if I wanted to talk to someone over the phone I wouldve have done in the first place.

 Ive read many posts on here over the last week. Im not understanding some of the terms used...  example quote from a post   "15/80 or 15/100.I have been taking 30/200 for about 6 months now.From what I hear,they can be found at even higher dosages.I go to a real Dr.and my prescription is filled at a compounding pharmacy.My 30/200's "

now i take vicodin ES which is 7.5/750 I am assuming that is 7.5 mg hydrocodon, and 750 mg's tylenol..... right??? or am I wrong?????

and Ive read posts that there are perscriptions out there that you can get, that have NO tylenol in them... it would just be vicodin??? my dr. tried me on vicodin HP which i think are vicodin 10's. rather than the 7.5/750 but they made me toooo sleepy, and belive it or not, didnt work as well for the pain as the ES's do....

But If i am now having troubles with my kidneys, should i ask my doc about the pain med's with no APAP in them????

You all are so very knowledgeable, I am so beyond happy I stummbled upon you guys here.

Thank you.

 Lilbit aka Linda

Cervial disk rupture at c5/c6.Rupture took bone spurs and embedded them into spinal cord. Cervical Spinal Fusion,with hardware. then Fustla/dura repair of spinal cord to seal hole left by bone spur removal.

Fibromyalgia/spinal stenosis. chronic neck and back pain.