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Thanks for your reply.  I agree wtih this sales merchant was more than aggravating and they have the nerve to keep calling me!  It took over 2 months for me to get these fake pills.  I might look into having them analyzed at a lab but I am not sure how much it would cost.  Will let you know if I find anything out.  Just curious, did you try one?  I am hesitant to put one in my month since I do not know what it is made up of.

You're right, there are two threads going.  Click the link Kirby provided.  There's no real way to merge the two, but we can link to them. 

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   I just noticed the camera icon on the response window. Seems pretty clear how to post a photo. Now I need to take one and transfer it to this computer. I'll try to do this soon.

    Just a bit more info. One thing is to emphasize that the pill weight info that I gave in my earlier posts was decimal data about the weight in grams. I believe the number was about .733 grams. I hadn't noted that fact in that post.

   Also I can report that having tried a few pills before in quantities too small to be sure what to expect, I tried a larger dose now that I have confidence that I won't have a severe response. Plus I reduced my normal intake the last couple of days in order to reduce my tolerance to opiods. I was at the point where I was getting a bit of a runny nose plus a slight supression of energy levels that I normally connect with the beggining of withdrawal symptoms. Taking the blue pills eliminated the drip, brought up my mood a bit, especially after a small meal. Still not perfect evidence, but between this and the taste of the things I'd say there is likely some amount of opiod in these things. Perhaps just codeine. It does seem likely that I'd get a good deal stronger response if they were 10 mg hydrocodone, so I really doubt that they could be more than 5 mg if they are hydrocodone at all. From Kirby's doubts about the possibility of foreign hydrocodone/APAP combos I'd lean towards codeine. Maybe 30 mg.

   I still wouldn't rule out hydrocodone, but I don't have any way of judging just how much of an expert Kirby is on the matter of foreign production of an APAP/hydrocodone pill. It seems as though any foreign country might well have it's own developing pharmaceutical industry, and there are an awful lot of such  countries. Perhaps you are in the business?

   To be more certain I'd have to spend a few days with little or not pain meds, then try these again. I'd probably be able to judge better then, though I don't think I'd ever be certain about the difference between codeine or hydrocodone or some other opioid I'm unfamiliar with. I do think I can say that anyone with these who has any tolerance at all for opiods and acetaminiphen could probably safely take a few of these with virtually no chance of ill effects, barring some sort of allergic reaction.

   Well of course I'm inclined to take you word for the unlikelyhood of a hydrocodone/APAP combo coming from Costa Rica, though I can't help but be a bit curious how someone would learn such information unless perhaps they were very familiar with the international pharmaceutical industry, which from you're level of confidence I'm guessing you are.  My own experience jibes with what you say as far as a codeine/APAP combo being fairly common. I've run into those from both Mexico and Europe, all in different shapes from what is most common here in the U.S.  Based on the fact that I seem to have had a clear opiod like reaction from these blue pills it seem then that the best guess is that these are simply 30mg codeine with probably 500 or more mg APAP. Those would be close enough in effect to hydrocodone that a user might well not be sure they'd been ripped off, and would explain why the scammers would ship them rather than just take the money and run.

    I'm guessing it isn't the dihydrocodeine only because I have had those in the past and they didn't seem to have quite the same euphoric effect that I think I've gotten just a touch of from these blue things. I can't be sure though. The only way to tell would be if I was completely off any opiod for a good chunk of time, then tried 2 or 3.

    Thanks for all the feedback from me and on behalf of some of the other posters. You seem to be the best informed on this matter.

well since i am up late and cant sleep. one more thing. costa ricans have  wonderful near free public access to health care if they need it . it is no coincidence they have a longer life expectancy then americans. not bad for a small realitivly poor country!!  anyways the public angency in charge of it all is the Caja Costarricanse de Seguro Social, or CCSS for short.r