Watson Oxycodone ER SUCKS!!!

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I been on oxycontin for almost a year now the first brand i got was endo. Endo actually works Watson doesnt. I have been on the name brand until my last script where my duma** doctor forgot to write medical nessacery. I am using Watson oxycodone ER and i am in pain taking the ammount i was prescribed 2 every 8 hours. i am taking 4 every 12 hrs and im still in pain i cant understand why they suck so much. 2 20mg pills should work for 8hrs for me but these are horrible. I feel as if im withdrawling i dont know what to do its basicly pointles to keep taking these since they dont even work anyone got any ideas?




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the only thing which i could

the only thing which i could suggest in a situation like this is to possibly take in your remaining pills to your prescribing doctor and tell them exactly what you told us (although i would not tell your doctor that he/she is a duma** like you stated here).

if they are understanding or the least bit compasionate i am sure that they will either issue a new script or give some type of other med to get you through until your next scheduled appointment.

as w/ any medical concerns please consult your doctor or medical team.

p.s. unimportant side note: you misspelled amount the same way i always do w/ two "M's":)


all thoughts and opinions expressed are those of my own and should not be mistaken for medical advice. i am not a doctor nor a pharmacist. all medical questions should be answered by a licensed pharmacist, doctor, or primary care manager.



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They are the EXACT same thing

That is really interesting considering the watson generic oxycodone ER is made by Purdue pharma, the makers of the brand oxycontin. The watson generics are EXACTLY the same (no difference whatsoever in active or inactive ingredients). The one difference is the watson versions say ABG instead of OC on one side of the pill. I beleive they are even made on the same press at the same facility. If the brand oxycontin worked for you, than the watson generic WILL work exactly the same way unless your tolerance suddenly went up a whole bunch or you didnt take anything for awjile and let your pain level spike. I'm not trying to be rude or anything but the purdue oxycontin and watson ABG oxycodone ER are literally the EAXCT SAME. Purdue didnt want to lose out on the generic sales when they lost their patent so they manufacture the pills and watson markets them as the generic (paying purdue royalties of course). This way, watson has the superior generic product (actually not generica at all besides in the name) on the market. I know 99% of oxycodone ER users will go out of their way to go to a pharmacy that carries th watson generic if they cant get the brand. Many people refer to the endo and teva gnereic as trash (especially teva) I know the endo works OK but not as good as the original/watson) The teva does not work very well at all. Not to sound rude again, but this may just be in your head with you thinking its a generic. Im not saying youre not in pain, but you may be thinking since its not what youre used to taking, its not working even though it is. I swear to you it is identical to the brand, ask anyone else (who knows what they are talking about) and they will tell you the same thing. Even doctors and pharmacists are aware of the fact watson oxycodone ER is made by purdue and many reccoment it, my pain dr. did.

I wish you the best of luck in finding adequete pain relief.

Also, walgreens and wal-mart both always  carry the endo branf generic oxycodone ER so you can always find it there if thats what works best for you.

PDX




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I am without a prtion of my

I am without a prtion of my small intestine, and my 'gastric transit' time is a bit fast. I took the Endo brand generic oxycodone and my doctor couldn't figure out why I needed to dose every 6 hours, it turns out that the Endo didn't absorb in my large intestine.

Since I have to pay for my own prescriptions, the brand name was waaaayyy expensive. I was told that the Watson generic was identical to the brand name, and it does work great for me.

If you have genuine Watson oxycodone ER, it makes no sense that your dose has gone up so much, so something is definitely wrong here. Possibilities: 1) you have the wrong strength pills, or 2)the pharmacy unknowingly bought counterfeit medication, which has lower levels of active ingredient in it. If the brand name Oxycontin works for you, genuine Watson oxycodone ER should be working just fine.

If you are going into withdrawal, your pills probably don't have enough (or any) oxycodone in them. It is possible to go into withdrawal if your dosage goes way down, even if you are getting a small amount of medication. I've been there, while I was in the hospital and they changed from IV pain drip to oral pain meds, but not enough. Day from He##.

Go back to your doctor and explain what is going on. Take all of your pills back to the doctor so that you can give them to the doctor; he will likely be more comfortable giving you a new prescription.




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i took my pills back to walgreens

i told them my script said medically nessacery and they checked it and it did. so they gave me the brandname. they exchanged what i had left for the brand name i was talking to i guess was the head pharmacist she said that watson oxycodone ER has euphoria blocking chemical in the drug which in some cases makes the pain relief less effective. I took 2 of the brand name as im perscribed and i felt so much better i took 6 of the watson and was in pain by my own experience i can tell you there not the same. I thank you all for giving me you advice and information.



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They are EXACTLY the same.

They are EXACTLY the same. Made by the same manufacturer possibly even on the same press. As far as the head pharmacist at walgreens telling you that the watson generic has a euphoria blocking chemical, thats B.S. Maybe they were thinking of the endo or teva generic oxycodone ER as like myself and other posters have stated, the brand oxycontin and the watson generic oxycodone ER are chemically identical. They are manufactured at the same facility by Purdue pharma. The only difference (superficial as it may be) is the brand has an OC imprint while the watson has an ABG imprint. They are the same=bottom line!

PDX




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WHILE I MUST AGREE WITH JECK...

While I must agree with JECK that Watson, in my years of experience w/various pain meds makes a superior product, I would be careful to call them identical just b/c the same co. owns them. Many of these giant sleazy pharmaceutical companies make generics of their patented drug once the patent runs out...yet being cut throat businessmen, they use cheaper means to produce them (as they will sell for less). I don't care if they are made in the same lab...! By the same techs..! Still no guarantee they are identical...we all no the FDA allows them a certain leeway and they damn well use it! That is why they are wealthy! so be careful about broad assumptions, even though you may be correct in this case. 

-That being said, I have always found Watson superior to many generics, especially Mallincrodt (with norco, lorcet, etc)




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well... i gotta jump in here and throw the flag...

first, i would like to inform you that i am glad that the pharmacy was understanding about the situation. since the FDA prohibits pharms from takeing in medicine from people outside pharm companies, it was pretty cool of them to give you the brand. however, since it was their mistake (i presume) then i guess they at least owed you that. additionally, i am glad that you are feeling better now.

however, i have to say that the pharm tech is full of it. there is absolutely no such chemical added to block the ephoric effects in that particular brand pill. the makers are required by law to state what is in the pills. i can not attest for or agaisnt if they are exactly the same thing as the brand, but i can tell you that there is not any information on their website in the prescribing information.

if for some reason you dont believe me or think that there is even the least chance that your pharm tech is correct, be sure to ask here to show you where she got that information.


all thoughts and opinions expressed are those of my own and should not be mistaken for medical advice. i am not a doctor nor a pharmacist. all medical questions should be answered by a licensed pharmacist, doctor, or primary care manager.



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YEAH WELL...

Yeah, well...I think you came right out and said what we were all beating around the bush about PHISHER...I mean, the poster probably has the pharmacist mixed up with a $6.00 an hour pharm tech, b/c no pharmacist would say such a thing...make such a statement. It is ridiculous, not to mention fraudulent and a complete fabrication, to say that a generic painkiller has a "euphoria blocker" in it? come on...



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OK, how can I put this

OK, how can I put this without explaining how to abuse oxycontin? I have heard that the Endo generic has a compound in it that stings if the pill is used/abused in a manner not intended by the manufacture. Maybe that is what the 'pharmacy tech' was trying to refer to.