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No more generic Oxycodone ERI can't seem to find any information about this except from my local pharmacies. I went to fill my prescription last month for Watson generic Oxycodone ER 20 mg strength and was told that they only had 20 pills left, and could only fill the script with the brand name. Any stockpiled generics would still be sold, but some sort of lawsuit has the generics unavailable for the pharmacies to order. This month, I was able to find some from another pharmacy, and I have a two-month supply instead of just one month's worth, (with the warning that running out early will earn detention and a return to monthly office visits, etc.). What the heck is going on with the generics? Is this just in Oregon, or nationwide? ( categories: Discussion of Prescription and OTC Meds )
 Lawsuit Won by Purdue
It's nationwide. You might want to read this thread for a little history: http://www.pharmer.org/node/4472 Purdue asserts all the generics infringe upon its patent. The company gave other manufacturers warning yet graciously let those companies sell the generics until the companies' stockpiles ran out. The deadline was tentatively set at December 2006. Apparently the time has come for all generics to disappear. But I did really think the ABG generics (made by Purdue and distributed by Watson - the 'authorized generic') would continue to be marketed. Guess not! I'm not a pharmacist or a medical doctor. This message is not medical advice nor is it an offer to provide medical advice. All drug identifications should be validated by a licensed MD or pharmacist.  I as well, thought the ABG
I as well, thought the ABG generics would continue to be in production since Purdue manufactures them. It's kind of hard to infringe on your own copyright, isn't it? That being said, if the ABG's were to still be in circulation, I would guess their price to skyrocket. Since Purdue is now the sole manufacturer of Extended Release Oxycodone, who knows how high they will set their prices? Part of me wonders if this is a half-hearted attempt by Purdue to decrease the amount of the drug prescribed by forcing a dramatic spike in the price. Thereby, essentially making this medicine unavailable due to finances for those who might be better suited on a less potent drug. I guess what I'm really trying to say is that, in my opinion, Purdue has had so much heat over Oxycontin, that I wonder if this is their "attempt" to weed out those who need it from those who do not by forcing the drug to be astronomically expensive. With the theory that those who really need this medicine will find a way to pay for it, and those who do not will resort to a less potent medicine. Of course, this is all just opinion and speculation, and I'm probably wrong.
Gtrplayer NO, I WOULD NOT DISMISS YOUR THEORY....
No, I would not dismiss your theory too lightly GTRPLAYER ...as you pointed out, they have had horrible press b/c of one drug, not to mention continuous litigation by those rx'd it to those rx'n it! It is like the (i am gonna butcher this spelling prob) botulism poisoning of several people by a plastic surgeon who was using what would be considered a "generic" and very potent dose of botox...they barely lived after months of coma and years of rehabilitation...and they look 10-15 years older (ironic) all b/c they thought their buddy "the doc" was hooking them up for free (he himself took it as well, and the other man was also a doctor of some kind i believe)...MY POINT IS...all media outlets reported "an overdose of botox" which was incorrect, just as every-time there is a "generic" oxy used, they report, "oxycontin overdose..." stock drops, etc, ...I mean, i was shocked in talking to my own wife, people don't even know that..."There is only one band-aid in the world, (by Johnson & Johnson i believe)"...all others must have some slant, i.e. bandages, stretch bands, athletic tape, whatever...If they don't pay an annual royalty fee, they can not place "band-aids" on their box. Weird b/c most of us grew up w/no other choice in the med cabinet. -What makes this post catch my attention, is my guy (doc...really still a P.A.) is usually right about all medicine issues (he is doing his ortho surgical turns now) and he basically lets me try anything (we have a level of trust) WHICH IS WHY I WAS SHOCKED WHEN HE SWITCHED ME FROM NORCO TO MUCH MORE POWERFUL PERCOCET 10/325 (generic oxycodone/apap) HE STATED, "THIS WILL BE EXPENSIVE AS THERE IS NO GENERIC...AT THIS STRENGTH"...I couldn't believe it, but hey, he knows his stuff. When i call to check they assure me they do have it, but had to look and ask and check again when i dropped it off, SO IS THAT NEW? WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY NO GENERIC FOR THE 10/325 PERC? I was just psyched it was there now...costs me $2 But i think there may be something to GTRPLAYER'S theory as most of society sees oxycontin as a stereotypical street drug...how did it get that rap? when generics flooded the market and the secret was out, allowing for illegal "black market" forms of it to flood the boarders as well as legit generics. If they reel it back in...make it very expensive and difficult to attain, that crime will plummet (per that drug) whic is all they care about right now. They will probably even dole it out for low to no cost to the poor who truly need it, as they have those programs...they just screen you first.  I think that a lot of the
I think that a lot of the heavy hit areas from Oxycontin issues are putting the pressure on Purdue to regulate it more..I've only been prescribed it once and was scared to take it due to the media overhype of it...
Vicodin is a much more abused drug yet you don't see the hype over that... VERY TRUE UNDERTAKERESS, BUT...
Very true undertakeress, but...kids (mainly) don't die of it (nearly as often anyhow), kind of like the dif between having a coors light and pure grain alcohol (moonshine) at a party X 100...b/c the kids/teens at these parties crush the pill, thereby receiving a daily dose or more of the drug instantly...causing heart attacks, and sudden deaths. whereas with Vicoden, while I agree with you it is more widely abused...one would have to take more than a dozen at once to equal the oxycontin crushed or bitten! That is the reason...death, vs. a scare or two. Ha ha Floot - Yes, you're
Ha ha Floot - Yes, you're right - I was half asleep and trying to save typing time :) ...and my hydrocodone/APAP is Watson.. Woot!
Capt - Yes you are correct with the Oxycontin vs Vicodin, however in the town where I live, there is a major prescription drug issue, and the teenagers here are taking a LOT of Xanax and Vicodin (brand names used for simplicities sake). When I arrest people through my job, I'm finding a lot of these pills on them. So yes, it's more of a long term abuse issue. I AGREE UNDERTAKERESS...
I agree UNDERTAKERESS...same here in my area of Florida. I guess it is b/c oxycontin is far less prevalent (rx'd) than is Vicodin or Xanax. When kids get their hands on oxy it is rare compared with every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a tooth ache receiving Vicodin, and anyone who complains about being stressed out (as my wife did) gets Xanax rx'd! So, point taken. Oxycodone/APAP is a
Oxycodone/APAP is a different med from oxycodone extended release in two ways: first, the oxycodone/APAP (generic Percocet) is immediate release and lasts 4 to 6 hours. Oxycontin (oxycodone extended release) lasts 12 hours or so. Second, generic Percocet contains tylenol (that's what the APAP stands for), while oxycontin does not. I cannot tolerate taking tylenol on a daily basis, and the up-down-up-down of the immediate release oxycontin bothers me as well. By the way, Oxycontin stands for OXY (oxycodone) CONTIN (continuous release). I would rather be taking generic percocet for the price, though. It's by FAR cheaper. You are wrong. An ER
You are wrong. An ER medication really has no equivalent when compared to a normal release drug like Lortab. The hydrocodone to oxycodone ratio may be correct, but the preparation of oxycodone er (Oxycontin) is different than that of a regular release oxycodone tablet. Namely, a regular release oxycodone (or hydrocodone tablet for that matter) does not have a time release mechanism to it. Therefore, it is kind of like comparing apples to oranges. Gtrplayer  ok, well what if there was
ok, well what if there was no er coating on it? this girl i know says she takes an oxy 80, splits it in half. she takes half at once! i have NEVER taken this so i have no idea.i tried to convert it for her using the rawoody chart. (edited by TeamPharmer) oxycontin release mechanism
The coating on the purdue and watson oxycontin is what makes them time-released but not the endo brand. The endo brand is not water solubable, therefore the coating has nothing to do with the time release, but the purdue and watson brands are water solubable. So if you split them in half or remove the outside coating, they will no longer be time-released. I think that endo did this to make them harder to abuse, which creates less overdoses which also creates less lawsuits. I don't think that's
I don't think that's correct. I have read that the extended release mechanism in Oxcontin is a dual-polymer matrix, and the coating is nothing more than identification marks. If you go to the Purdue website, and look at the prescribing information for Oxycontin, and scroll all the way down to the bottom, you'll see the special advisory about the pill being a "special extended release mechanism". I'm not going to get too into it because I don't want to inadvertently post something that irresponsible people might due to this medication. Gtrplayer  somatose,you are in fact
somatose, you are in fact incorrect on this matter. the time release is NOT in the coating but rather in the pill. all thoughts and opinions expressed are those of my own and should not be mistaken for medical advice. i am not a doctor nor a pharmacist. all medical questions should be answered by a licensed pharmacist, doctor, or primary care manager. Part of the reason that you
Part of the reason that you cannot compare an immediate release percocet to an extended release oxycontin is that the blood levels of medication absorbed will be different. My doctor took into consideration the amount of immediate-release percocet that I was taking when he switched me over to sustained-release pain meds. It is definitely a ball-park figure rather than an absolute conversion. yep, same ingredients, same
yep, same ingredients, same maker, same everything except name. all thoughts and opinions expressed are those of my own and should not be mistaken for medical advice. i am not a doctor nor a pharmacist. all medical questions should be answered by a licensed pharmacist, doctor, or primary care manager. |
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