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Alcohol and Suboxonei THINK I READ THAT U R NOT SUPPOSED TO DRINK ALCOHOL WITH SUBOXINE. I AM A WINE LOVER AND DONT THINK I DONT DRINK WINE WITH MY LORTAB OR OXYS...JUST NOT AS MUCH...SO DOES ALCOHOL MESS W/THE EFFECTS OF SUBOXINE? PLEASE GIVE ME SOME OPINIONS..AND I KNOW WE ARENT DOCS, JUST WANT OPINIONS OK? THANKS. PEACE OUT. ( categories: Discussion of Prescription and OTC Meds )
 Alcohol and Suboxone
If you want my opinion, I would say combining any type of alcohol with any opioid is very dangerous. In fact, it's not advisable to combine alcohol with any drugs, even common over-the-counter meds like acetaminophen, aspirin or ibuprofen. All of these compounds are drugs (alcohol included), and all have side effects. Two or more combined can result in more serious problems than each one alone. I'm not a pharmacist or a medical doctor. This message is not medical advice nor is it an offer to provide medical advice. All drug identifications should be validated by a licensed MD or pharmacist.  I agree whole heartedly with
I agree whole heartedly with what Kirby told you, but just wanted to add something else. I am not being snide when I say this, but not only is mixing alcohol with narcotics a potentially dangerous combination- it's flat out stupid. Both chemicals (alcohol + narcotic of choice) will slow your central nervous system. I don't know, nor particularly care, how much wine you drink with your medicine. But, to be safe, why not try doing without one or the other for awhile. At least, not at the same time. gtrplayer Thanks for not particularly
Thanks for not particularly caring whether I od and die or not, kind and supportive of you. Obviously you are not addicted or don't have this dis-EASE. Yea, its easy ill just not take my opiates on any given day that I choose to drink. JUST SAY NO, right? Actually, knowing gtrplayer,
Actually, knowing gtrplayer, if he took the time to comment that means he does care. Gtrplayer is not the "sensitive" type when he comments,lol, instead he is more concerned with making sure you have all the facts and information that you may need. You also don't have to be addicted or going through the same thing to be empathetic. I think what gtrplayer is suggesting is not to go a full day without taking your pills, but instead to either abstain from drinking, or maybe take your pills in the morning or afternoon and skip that evening dose when you decide to have a glass of wine. Most IR meds wear off after 4-6 hours- you don't have to go a whole day without your pain meds to drink, just be smart and responsible about the timing. I'm a social worker, not a medical professional. All comments and thoughts are simply my opinion and experience. ???`confused??
Okay, i really do appreciate everyones comments, however, it is quite amazing to here a social worker talk about being responsible and smart in an opinion regarding opiate addiction or any addiction for that matter. Yes, i am sure there are plenty of "responsible" drug addicts in our universe, however, unfortunately, I do not hold that title. Obviously not considering I have continuted to use and abuse despite all of the negative outcomes that I have endured lately (wait, not lately, throughout the past 20 years of my life). My most recent screw up was getting a B- in advanced research in the my MSW program. What does that mean? It means I could not continue and graduate with the rest of my class in May of 08. I have a pattern of self destructing whenever I am doing well or reaching my goals. I so wish that I could be responsible while buying opiates on the street, spending $100's of dollars a week and abusing my body, while smoking two packs of cigs a day, and drinking wine almost every day. You see, I stumbled across this site searching for commonality, and i did find a lot of people who use and abuse as I do. Although I have now been introduced to Suboxone, I have yet to make that appointment. I did call one of the three doctors offices' in my area today, and hung up when they answered. What am I afraid of?? Becoming addicted to yet another pill. But, the alternative is worse, it is to continue this life of deceit and deception to all those who love and care about me. Again, I appreciate the suggestions, I just do not believe that the majority of practicing, full-blown addicts are capable of being "responsible" when it comes to mind alterating substances. I apologize i I sound ungrateful or rude. This is just my opinion and I to have a degree in social work and ten years experience working with substance abusers. I'm surprised at your
I'm surprised at your response, alonenomore. Especially after reading that you are a social worker as well. Having a social work background, you must be knowledgeable in the strengths perspective. For everyone else, this means while practicing, you don't find the problem and try to fix it; instead you focus on your clients strengths and help them accentuate them. For you alonenomore, this means that yes, you have an addiction problem, but right now that's not what we're focusing on. Take it one step at a time. Obviously you are a responsible person, whether you see it or not. How could you have made it so far in your schooling if you weren't? How could you have managed to balance school and a family if you weren't? Sometimes addictions are a hard fight, and we can't always beat it, but we can try to manage or control it to some extent. You are responsible and trying to at least control some part of your addiction, or you wouldn't have even asked about the safety of alcohol and narcotics in the first place. You are trying to beat or control your addiction (while trying to be responsible) in inquiring about switching to suboxone. THAT is more of a step than I have tried! And no offense because I know it had to be a disappointment, but getting a B- at the end of your MSW was NOT self destructive or a screwup!! Listen to yourself, do you see how hard you are on yourself? Getting a B- was a disappointment, an eye-opener, maybe inattention or a misjudgment. But a B- anywhere else is usually good. Can't you retake the class? I can see how the fact that you have worked with substance abuse can give you this kind of demeanor about your own addiction. Do you actually have any ailments, an actual prescription for pain meds? Did you once have one, and just got hooked? Do you consider yourself a "full-blown addict"? If you still have a job, a house, a car, and bills are paid, then you are not "full-blown" in my definition, and this yet also is an example of you being responsible. Don't get so hard on yourself and say you are just like everyone else, you are not. If you had a client come in who was working with an addiction to any substance and was trying to deal with it and hoped to one day quit, would you refuse service until they were completely off the drugs? I would think that you would take it one day, one step at a time. You would say let's have a long-term goal to be off completely, but until then we will make short-term goals. One of these goals is to taper and take less. Another goal is to try to be as responsible as you can in this struggle. Am I right? Finding the docs and calling is a step, it's more than what you did last month to help your addiction, right? Next step is to actually call and talk to someone. Maybe after that you can call back and make an appointment. Addictions are one day, one step at a time. Hate the drug, hate the addiction- don't hate yourself. I'm a social worker, not a medical professional. All comments and thoughts are simply my opinion and experience.  I for SURE know that
Quote: Thanks for not particularly caring whether I od and die or not, kind and supportive of you. Obviously you are not addicted or don't have this dis-EASE. Yea, its easy ill just not take my opiates on any given day that I choose to drink. JUST SAY NO, right?
I for SURE know that GTRPLAYER didn't mean that. --- I KNOW for SURE In fact, he is very trustworthy when it comes to opinions.
Dr. KnightNetal "Thanks for not particularly
"Thanks for not particularly caring whether I od and die or not, kind and supportive of you. " No one, neither gtrplayer nor kirby said they did not particularly care whether you OD and die or not. Gtrplayer said he doesn't care how much you drink (as in even one or two drinks could be dangerous), but appropriately advised you not to drink alcohol while taking Suboxone or any other narcotic, because they are all respiratory depressants. Gtrplayer recommended that you abstain from alcohol while you are using narcotics (or abstain from narcotics while you are using alcohol). If you cannot abstain from alcohol while you are recieveing treatment with suboxone for narcotic addiction then you may also have an alcohol abuse problem that needs treatment as well. Gtrplayer expressed concern for your wellbeing: "to be safe, why not try doing without one or the other for awhile. At least, not at the same time." I think gtrplayer and kirby gave you good information. Perhaps it is just not what you wanted to hear.  Agreed
Inbibing alcohol with any medication is potentially harmful. Due to the fact that opioids are metabolised by the same liver enzyme as alcohol [CYP2D4, I believe, among possible others], this indicates that the two substances will be competing for absorption, thus increasing the amount of each substance within the body. It is never recommended that one drinks alcohol while taking prescription medication [or even OTCs] as it can result in dangerous consequences. Many a time, a pharmacy vial will be accompanied by an axilliary label warning a patient to consult his or her physician if he or she consumes 3+ alcoholic beverages per day; however, better to be safe than sorry. This is not a medication I would combine with alcohol. If you have any serious questions, contact your physician to get a medical opinion. And I am not a medical professional, only training. This is just advice I'd stick by, personally. [n o t h i n g : e v e r y t h i n g : : r e a l i t y me and my partner
me and my partner decided it was time to stop taking drugs. We both went on suboxne. I worked great for me, but I dont drink. He drinks everyday and with the suboxone, he literally went crazy. Not 100 percent sure if it was the suboxne/alcohol mix but he had never acted like or showed of signs of being the person he turned into while taking both. I dont know if this helps your wuestion or not. (edited by TeamPharmer) Grateful
So grateful for the folks like you on this site Nugget, you posted exactly what I was looking for, examples and experience. I will definitely be careful with the "vino" if I try Suboxone. Are you still taking the Sub? How long had you been taking the 80s before you went on the Subs? Just started taking the 80s, only got 10. Receiving the 40s tomorrow from my "friend". The 80s were kind of a luck of the draw situation, i was out of all opiates and desperate. Counting down till October 15th when I have planned to see a doctor here in town regarding Suboxone. However, i have yet to make the appointment. Whats up with that? I often wonder if i really want fo give this up. If feels wonderful...no worries ya know. But oh my I have so many unpleasant stuff going on in my life right now, no wonder I keep "numbing out" or dissasociating. Please keep in touch. (edited) alonenomore
If you dont start them subs , i will hunt you down and take you to a clinic myself lol, listen, i was a lot worse than you when it came to the old illicit opiates and i came out the other end ! At least give it a try , i put a lot of time and effort into my last posting, and cant go through that again ............ YOU CAN DO IT .......... trust me you are not afraid of becoming addicted to another pill , you are afraid of facing the world with a straight head , i know what you are going through , ...... Alone No More
Dear happybuck Thank you so much for your post. I cannot tell u how much I needed to read what you wrote, but I don't need to explain it, I can see you totally understand or "get it". You are probably correct in your statement that I am afraid of becoming clear-headed...I am very afraid that I will start crying and never stop once I have to face the truth of the wreckage I have created while using drugs. I can barely hold my head up now because of my no longer being in grad school with the two greatest friends in the whole world!! Here is the bummber...We are leaving for our vacation tomorrow at 9 a.m.) and I did not make an appointment for when we return on 10/15/07! I am afraid that if i come back and start in with my callling the friend/dealer, I will never make the call, I know myself vey well, especially this disease and me. Anyway, I did registger with that site that finds u a doctor and i have had four doctors reply. I am supposed to leave for vacation at 9 a.m. with my husband, but i will try and delay long enough to call these docs and try to get in with one of them on upon my return, (10/15/07). Believe it or not, there is a very big part of me that wants my life back, my sanity back, my sense of self, my dignity, and my self worth. Then there is that part of me that does not want to give up the drugs. I am now takin 80 mgs at a time (two 40s) and need to be careful as I might run out early and I can feel my health deteriorating. It is time that I make some changes if I want to see my grandson graduate from high school (he is one year old). Hec, who am i kidding, I am afraid i won't make it at this rate for his first day of kindergarten. Again, happybuck, and everyone else that has posted, take care and thanks for caring about me! (edited) alonenomore
anyone that can beat any type of opiate addiction has my highest respect ! even if you dont manage to get to the doctors appointment on your given day , you will, when you are good and proper.... you know what i hate so much ? Its when obvious intelligent people who have so much to offer to society (like yourself) who just make that one poxy mistake that stays with you for the rest of your life, easy to get into , prob the hardest thing to get out of .... anyway, i for one have every confidence in you , I am not wording this very well i know, it took me about 6 months to phsyche myself up , will i , wont i , shall i , shall i not ...... in the end i did , that is how i can share some of my experience with you ...... when you take the subs everything slowly falls back into place.. and you will kick yourself for not doing it sooner.. but as long as you do it , and another thing that made me stop was the thought of lining some scum bgs pocket who you think is your freind but really doesn't care about you , but hey , only you will know when you are good and ready . thinking of ya out there in cyber space , stay healthy , by some one who knows the score , ............... OPENED EYES
TTHANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO COMMENTED. Sorry i am just now responding...I went "deer hunting" with my husband for a week. I dont actually hunt, i just go to get away and relax. Would have been a good time to kick, but you no how ugly that can be. Unfortunately I did not have time or the guts to actually schedule the appointment. To gtrplayer -i apologize whole heartedly for the post some time ago. I have had a lot of time to think since i posted that question, and you probably have saved my life. I actually took what u said to heart and applied in my brain. My stubburn addiction would not let me see the forest through the trees. Dont ask me why, cuz taking more oxy than before, however, finally i am afraid of dying or no longer in denial saying "that wont happen to me". Although i did not quit drinking entirely as I should, let me tell you i have been aware of everydrink i take and am able to put it down. THANK YOU. You did not deserve what I said, but if you have been talking with addicted people on here for very long, you know that while under the influence we often say things that we shouldnt or wouldnt under different circumstances. Your posting has not left my mind...which is a good thing. So much to live for. js57gifts - thank you as well..words cannot describe what you posting has done for me. I havnt been to therapy in months (cognitive therapy) and since i havnt been honest lately with anyone who dont care about me, just my husband's big wallent (thank you happybuck!!) Shame on me to call myself a social worker and ....WOOPS THERE I GO AGAIN BEATING MYSELF UP! Anyway, your posting was very similar to what my therapist says to me, my husband (when i finally come clean with him ONE MORE FLIPPING TIME). Your posting was similar to what i would tell my clients (if I was practicing). Its what I used to tell myself over and over again (changed my thinking). You were right on with your description of me. These recent posts brought tears to my eyes. I havnt even came close to tears in weeks as i am afraid that if i started crying i would never stop. Another reason i abuse the opiates. Please, whoever you really are and whoever you really are, dont lose contact with me. I feel a flutter of hope in my stomach. I dont know what else to say right now, i could ramble all night right now, but, i do know that i am going to at least call one of the four doctors who have been referred to me (for in a large city 40 miles away) in the morning. I have been in full blownaddiction and down right numb now for about six weeks, however, was actively using months prior to that (about ten months) and i am scared to death to go out their and practice social work in this condition. I have been interviewing (twice) and have a call back on one for second interview, with another interview the last week in Sept. If i dont get off these opiates (hopefully with Subox) and take a social work position, i will eventually lose that job and burn ONE MORE BRIDGE. I am 41 and plenty have been burned. The class i received a B- in was not my last class in graduate school. It was the class i had to pass to continue through my advanced year and graduate with my MSW in May. I am grateful to say (and need to remember) that I am still in the program just have to retake the class and they only offer it in the summer. I have the next five years to go back. So, you are right, its not too late. TO BE CONTINUED..STILL HAVE A FEW FOLKS TO THANK Alonenomore,You are welcome
Alonenomore, You are welcome for any input I gave you that you may have found helpful. I am glad that you now see I was not aiming to be rude, I simply wanted to address the combination as being potentially lethal/fatal. I am glad that you are looking ahead to the future- and wish you nothing but the best of luck. Let us know how things work out with SuboxoneTM, I have heard great things about it, but do not know first hand. You were correct when you stated that I obviously have never been addicted to drugs or alcohol, so I was trying to give you only the facts. Since I have only read about it, I do not know what it is like. I have read the stories and it sounds like a journey, but most people seem so relieved once they take the initial step. You asked if anyone had any advice prior to your first appointment, and if I may, I would like to suggest one thing: Be completely honest with your doctors. They understand this from a disease standpoint, and will treat it accordingly. Good luck gtrplayer Gtrplayer...
gtrplayer hit it on the head when he said be completely honest. These doctors specialize with opiate addiction, so there's nothing you can say that will surprise them, shock them or disappoint them. They need to know exactly what you take, what dosages and how often, and an idea of when and how the withdrawal symptoms set in. Money is another issue. Do any of these offices finance treatment plans. I really wish I could help you. There's got to be a way, since I seriously doubt that most of the patients that these offices treat have $700 to put down all at once. I mean, come on, when you're desperate you spend every penny you have to feed your addiction, despite the consequences. Not saying that is the case with you, but opiate addicts in general, including myself. I really hope you find the answer you need, and soon. Is there a good friend or relative that you could ask to borrow the money from that would keep your problem discreet? FOUND DOC
Hi guys, just an update. I found a doc that will "only" charge me $350 first visit, $150 next day and each follow up $150. The lady on the phone was so nice and helpful I have a telephone interview set for mon at 4:45. Plan to start my program on Monday, October 23rd!!! Cannot start this next week cuz i have job interviews and need to be there for five hours two days in a row and it is in a town 75 miles from my interviews. Ok i can do this, no WE CAN DO THIS!!
PEACE OUT.
D alonenomore- I'm glad I
alonenomore- I'm glad I could be of some help, that's why I'm here. I know how hard it is, especially with all the pressures of life, family, household, school. Usually you get put in the back of the line and do whatever you have to to get by and barely manage. It's always easier to say tomorrow. Tomorrow is the day everything will be better, and the sun will come out and shine on everything. I'm sure you know that we have to make our own tomorrows. Calling that doctor was the first step. A good step. Remember to take it in stride though. If you really want it, it will find a way of working itself out. How much better do you already feel about yourself since you found someone to talk to and started taking action? I will always be here to help and offer advice or support, so feel free anytime to PM me, or say something here. I'm waiting to hear how your first appt. goes... I'm a social worker, not a medical professional. All comments and thoughts are simply my opinion and experience. NAIL ON THE HEAD
Wow js57gifts, you and i seem to think on the same page most of the time! How did u know that i feel 100 times better now that i have support from you guys and have actually made the appontment. I have been singing "Dont Stop Thinking About Tomorrow" my Fleetwood Mac all day. I have hope in my heart again. I have a new issue i could use advice about. I have to tell my husband about what i have been doing and about the Suboxone. I plan to compose him a letter (he has about 40 letters in his top drawer from me requested help and forgiveness for my addiction) in fact, i call them volumes now. For instance on this next letter (hopefully the last) I will put Volume #97 cuz the last letter written about two months ago was volume #96. It is no laughing matter though, I know he wont leave me and he will be supportive, but i let him down again and he takes it personal. He used to think my relapses meant he was a failure at taking care of me!! He used to be so naive about this disease. I try to convince him it has nohing to do with him. But nevertheless he takes on my stuff sometimes. Also, the look on his face is a killer. He gets hurt by my relapses, cuz he says it appears that i put the drugs before him. Well, yea i do, but i dont want to anymore and i am seeking out help, a different kind of help than i have ever had. Anyway, i also need him to get me the money off our line of credit (in his name only). So, anyway i need to start writing him the letter and i will refer him to several of the web cites. Do you have any good cites that might help him understand? I also left my therapist a message. Time to check back in for awhile with him. Thanks so much for being here for me. Take care.
Oh yea, i hope u dont mind if i borrowed your disclaimer, if so let me know and i will change it.
Peace Out, D
I too am a social worker, not a medical professional. Everthing i post is from my own experiences and/or educational and on-the-job training.
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sorry i never replied to your ?s on my original post. i was on the 80s for 5 months about 320mg a day before i finally realized it was time to do something about it. you have to realize also that the opiates reprogram your brain, which is why you didnt want to call for that appointment, because you feel nothing will be the same if your not high. But believe me after a few days on the suboxone you will love life. You wont even think about ocs at all. You will look foward to waking up again and just doing normal things. I would highly recommend some sort or drug counseling with the suboxone and after you ween yourself off of the suboxone, because you will still have cravings to revert back after you come off the subs and you need to learn how to deal with them. The first time I came off subs, 2 weeks later i found myself with 80s again, about 160mg a day for a month, then i went back to the suboxone clinic and joined a counseling group and got a one on one counselor and that seemed to make all the difference. I hope this helps you and good luck. I'm really starting to like
I'm really starting to like you alonenomore. It's refreshing to hear all your kind words. I'll tell you, I know how much of a difference it is to have someone be supportive and on your side, someone who can relate and not judge. I also know its hard to stay on a path to recovery when you are going at it alone. Your chances of following through and succeeding are 10x higher when you have a support system like you now have on here. On to your husband. Can I ask, you said your last letter was two months ago, was that the last time you relapsed or had problems with your addiction and came to him about it? Is the only time you write a letter to him when you are having problems with your addiction, or a relapse? There is something I noticed in your wording that I would like to suggest you alter just a little. You said hopefully this will be the last time you have a relapse. When you say it like that, that means that you are not sure and you are leaving room for it to happen again. Remember, YOU alone have the control to not let it happen. You are the one who decides. I know you want to stop taking, so how about saying THIS IS the last time. And no, I don't mind if you use the same disclaimer. In fact, I actually kind of like it. You are a social worker, and you should be proud of it! I'm a social worker, not a medical professional. All comments and thoughts are simply my opinion and experience. HONESTY
Hi guys..js57gifts and nugget, i called and left my long time therapist a message yesterday and he called me back this morning. I see him at 3. He will be the first "person in the flesh" that i will be disclosing by current abuse with. I agree Nugget that one must have a support system, this is a great place, but i believe i need to go back to my therapist so i can start hearing positive reinforcements and reprogram my brain ONE MORE TIME. Everyones comments, especially js57's have helped give me the courage to make the suboxone appointment and actually have faith in myself again. However, seeing "Mike" (my therapist) is a great step for me. In regards to my husband...yes the only time i write him letters anymore is when I am wanting to stop using again. Why letters? Well as many on this cite can agree, the shame and guilt make it very difficult to look him in the eye and let him know i have messed up again. I have had a problem with my addiction throughout my five year relationship with my husband. Off and on, off and on. I dont even think he knows the real me and i am afraid of how i will feel about our relationship once i get clean for good. YES THIS IS THE LAST WEEK I AM EVER GOING TO EXPERIENCE THIS OPIATE STUFF...FALLING ASLEEP IN CHAIRS, SPENDING MOST OF MY TIME PLAYING SPIDER SOILITARE ON THIS LAPTOP, SMOKING TWO PACKS OF SMOKES A DAY, The suboxone doc is calling me at 4:45 today for a phone interview to make sure i am a good candidate, which we all know i am. Also, my husband might have a new client today. Unfortunately, being married to an attorney means that crime pays, as well as divorce and child custody. nyway if he gets the new case i wont have to borrow the money from our line of credit for the first week of treatment ($600 first week plus cost of meds, then $150 for each followup visit). I cannot wait to actually feel like i deserve the title of social worker again. I have my second interview as a case manager on Wed., 10/17/07, which is why i am not starting the subox treatment until next Monday. I so need a job, i think it will help me. Oh well, i am typing with my eyes closed, so time to sign off. Again, thank you to my new found support group and friends.
The reason why I asked if
The reason why I asked if you only write letters when it comes to your opiate use is to get a perspective of what these letters mean to him. If the only time you write them is when you relapse, then the moment he sees a letter from you his heart will already sink. That letter is a sign to him of more than just a plea for acceptance and understanding. I think you know what I mean. If you are serious that this is your last time, which I am sure you are, I think it would show ALOT to your husband if you confront him yourself. I understand all your reasons for wanting to write, I know the humiliation, the stress, the heartache you feel wondering what he will say when he's done reading. But think of how it would feel replacing those feelings with the admiration, respect, and belief he will have in you when you come to him, confess your problems, ask for his forgiveness and help, and assure him this IS the final time. See, if you come at it different this time then he will know that you are serious about kicking it for good. I'm glad you decided to start talking to your therapist again, I think it will help you come to terms with everything alot better. You know more than anyone that talking to someone about your problems always helps. Please, feel free to always ask for anything, you know I'm here. Good luck Wednesday with the interview. I think it will be great for you to get back out there. I'm a social worker, not a medical professional. All comments and thoughts are simply my opinion and experience. RIGHT ON AGAIN
Hello to everyone. Had my telephone interview with the Suboxone doc today and saw my therapist. Was totally honest with both the doc and my therapist. Guess what js57gifts, u were right on again about the letter thing. My therapist said basically the same stuff. I have asked my husband to join me on a dinner date this Wednesday (specifically that day because my daughter is with her dad and I am protecting her from finding out about me and my addictions). Does anyone have any suggestions regarding what I should pull up on the web and print for him to read in regards to Suboxone treatment? I must go to sleep now, starting to fall asleep while typing. I too am a social worker, not a medical professional. Everything I post is from my own experience and/or educational and on-the-job training.
I thought i was the only one
I thought i was the only one who played cards on the internet for hours on end while on opiates, lol. You will still smoke a lot of cigarettes on suboxone, about the same as you do on oxycodone. I found my family and friends to be most supportive about my addiction, you just have to get your husband to realize its not really your fault that you relapse. Especially if he sees your making a concerted effort to change your ways. ADDICTIONS
Its good to know that i am not the only one who is addicted to more than just opiates. Especially these card games on line. However, i think i need to thank my addiction to spider solitare cuz otherwise i never would have been on my lap top that night i found u guys. Now, i play my game and switch back and forth checking the forum here and at www.drugs.com. Well, its set, i have my first appointment on Tuesday, 10/23 @ 8:20 a.m. Tomorrow night i am breaking the news to my husband. i do think he will be supportive, its just the money thing, but he is going to freak when i tell him how much money i have been spending on oxys. Just had my girl drop off my last scrip of oxy ever. She is aware of my plan to quit, but probably bummed cuz now she needs a new customer..oh well not my problem. I take my last oxy on Sunday areound 3 p.m. Monday will be rough, but i will just hang in there knowing my subox appointment is the next day. I have never withdrew from this high of a dose of oxy...only lortabs, norco and vicodins in the past...and those withdrawals were bad enough. My therapist told me that this high of an oxy addiction is going to result in terrible withdrawals. But, i am putting my faith in Suboxone. For the folks that think i am just substituting one for another, just stay tuned to this site, cuz i wont be on them forever and eventually i will be 100% clean again. I am very confident about this. Thanks again to everybody I too am a social worker, not a medical professional. Everything I post is from my own experience and/or educational and on-the-job training. Peace Out
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If you drink wine every single day, that is a problem in and of itself. You are risking your life taking both at the same time, I have no idea why you would want to do something bad to yourself, you seem like a fine intelligent, yet functioning alcoholic/addict, many people are. Please try stopping both, one or the other at first if both at one time is too much and get help doing it. I wish you luck, you can enjoy life without the wine or anything else mind altering. You can even have fun. Good luck, God bless to marie mary
thanks but no thanks...u obviously have no clue what its like to be one of us...u obviously did not read through all of this link, i have already changed my behaviors to the best of my ability thus far, and your right you don't understand and hopefully never will...i wish i did not understand what it is like to be me. Maybe u should read through all of the postings in a link before you comment next time, cuz u really hurt my feelings. CONFESSIONS
I JUST TOLD MY HUSBAND EVERYTHING AND MY PLAN....HE IS NOT TALKING TO ME RIGHT NOW...GREAT JUST WHAT I NEEDED, LIKE I DONT FEEL BAD ENOUGH...I WISH I NEVER WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM THE TRUTH. MY APPOINTMENT IS ON TUESDAY WISH ME LUCK, I HAVE TO QUIT USING ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON...CERTAINLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO MONDAY, BUT IT WILL SOON BE OVER, AND I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT. alonenomore, you have to
alonenomore, you have to give him time to take it all in. Don't be mad or upset with him that he doesn't automatically say its all okay. Give him time, let him understand. How did your interview go yesterday? I'm a social worker, not a medical professional. All comments and thoughts are simply my opinion and experience. THANKS FRIENDS
One more time and your righ js57. I typed him a short letter last night after he went to bed, as well as printed him an outline of the Suboxone treatment plan and message for family members. (Thanks for that link you guys). Today he was much different (as u said he would be js57) and he told me he stood behind me and we would get through it. He told me to take the money off our line of credit. My first appointment happens to be a day he does not have court so he is going to take me. He is a great man. The interview was ok. It was the second interview and i had to "role play". I was kind of rusty with trust and rapport, but did okay. There are two positions available, i should know next week. I did not get a good feeling unfortunately, but i did my best under the circumstances. It would be awesome if they offer me the job next week while i am getting startede on my new life. I cannot thank you guys enough. Running low on oxys, probably have to taper now cuz i dont want to call "m girl" anymore right now. So afraid of Monday when i have to go all day and night in withdraws. I have never tried to withdraw from this much before, always been Lortabs 7.5 or Norco 10s. I know i wont die, but i know i will want to. Why do we have to go through that i wonder. No pain no gain maybe. Please keep in touch with me, i need you guys. Forever grateful.
I too am a social worker, not a medical professional, all my posts are from my own experience and opinions. Taking Action
Alonenomore, I have read through all your posts with sympathy and interest. I picked up the phone and called a doctor off the turntohelp.com website and have had a couple appts. I have my suboxone induction procedure this Monday after the markets close. Since making the call, I have been feeling a bit more upbeat about my future and am ready, yet very anxious, to get started and see what its like without them again. I have been taking Norcos everyday for more than 6yrs. I am 34 and I dont remember what life was like without them. I am scared! The adventurer side of me is excited about experiencing something that for all intents and purposes is going to be a brand new experience for me after such a long stint without any downtime. Take care and I wish you all the best while you put yourself into withdrawal in preparation for your induction.
Regards, Wigg can relate
I am taking the same thing. I have been taking suboxone for months now and I was told by my doctor that even if you were to drink or do anything with an opioid that you wouldnt feel the affects of it. Now if you were to drink or take an opioid first and then took your medicine (suboxone) it will make you feel really bad. (sick) Hope it was better advice than some. Questions regarding Suboxone and alcohol use
Hi All, After searching the Internet, I came across this forum. I really appreciate the candidness that everyone has posted on this topic.I have been on Oxy since August 2007, when I was diagnosed with a Staph and Strep infection in my leg secondary to a blunt trauma to my fibia. I take between 4 and 8 5 mg capsules of Oxy every day. I also drink excessively every day (at least an 18 pack of beer every day, starting every morning). I am 33 years old.I am anxious about starting the Subs on Monday morning. But, I am also excited about getting rid of the opioid addiction. I don't know if it is a great idea to stop the Oxy and the alcohol at the same time. Does anyone know if there is any danger with starting the Suboxone and taking a short-term dose of Librium concurently? I also take Klonapin and Adderall daily. Any advice would be very helpful. I know that I should not take the Klonapin and the Librium at the same time, which should not be a problem. And, before you ask, I am seeing a very good pain specialist/anesthesiologist, a psychologist, a psychiatrist, an orthopedic surgeon, infectious disease specialist, an herbalist, and an Internist. I see them all regularly, and am a very good and reliable patient (I've been in the medical field in some form or another for 18 years). Does anyone know if it is dangerous to stop drinking that much at the same time I substitute the Oxy with the Suboxone? I know that there are warnings about taking benzos with the Subs. I told my pain specialist about my concomitant meds, and he did not see any problems. I don't think that he comprehends how much I drink, though. But, I definitely do not think that it is going to be easy and/or okay to stop everything at once. I want to be totally free of everything in a few months time. Like I said--I am very anxious about all of this. But I know it has to be done. Please let me know if there is anything that I am missing or any advice that you might have on coping with the withdrawal from any or all of this. I know the warning signs that would necessitate me going to the ER. I have everything planned out, so that I have sober friends that will be with me 24/7 until I feel better.My other anxiety is that I am waiting for a corneal transplant. That major surgery is obviously going to require some sort of pain management. I don't want to relapse into the opiate dependence. Are there other options? I've tried tramadol and the obvious ibuprofin, aspirin, acetaminophen routes, but they don't work. Thanks so much for your candidness and willingness to help. Any advice is greatly appreciated!!! I hope everyone on this site is feeling better by now. This message string is a bit dated. So, I am not sure anyone will reply. If you do, I really would like to hear your thoughts.Thanks! |
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.... remember your health, kids, and hubby ...... you never know , you might even enjoy having your brain back that you might even stop drinking and smoking , but one addiction at a time , . anyway will be checking on your progress , all the best , ex addict .
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